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adi_hanson
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Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Blackburn

just him?? , what about his sidekick aswell?


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owien
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Registered: Jan 2009
Location: the south

at the end of the day he has worked out how to get the best out off what he has got. be it software or hardware.

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adi_hanson
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Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Blackburn

i didnt say it was bad , i think faxing berlin is quite a good tune , Its just i go with everyone else where people say that they have used this when really they used something else.Could be they sponser a product, are embarrased it was a nexus preset or just plain dont want you to know.


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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

First Joel only works in FL. Then he only uses logic. He's on his own when he's producing. He has a team of engineers when he's producing. He only uses softsynths. He only uses hardware. He's got no classical training. He's knows music theory.

Guys seriously, he just keeps it simple, which is why you hear presets and some basic effects. Basically he just uses sounds that work with melodies, then fx that compliment both those factors.

Don't believe a word you read or see about what he uses. The reason a camera is there is to promote something. He was all over FL, until a better offer came up, the suddenly he was using a completely different set of tools. It's all marketing. Just think about this: he recently said that he's been using certain plugs (fxpansion I think) for nearly all his tracks over the past few years, but during the past few years there were only mentions of other plugins. See what I'm getting at?

As for hardware vs software, you can so very nearly get the sounds out of software that you think are only available in a hardware synth - Bob Moog told me that the Arturia minimoog sounds virtually identical to the real deal - it's comes down sonic limitations within the processing of the audio conversion that creates a difference. That diffrence is enough though for some people to shell out $$$'s for the hardware version.

As for synths like the virus, if they ever made a softsynth version, access would never sell another hardware synth again. It's all modelled, meaning a computer can produce exactly them same sounds.

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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Lelystad, Netherlands

I concur with a lot you're saying, only no VSTi sounds like analoque outboard, the emulations are not even close, sound way too precise, thin, harsch and metallic.

It's like Virtuagirl compared to a live lapdance....


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cryophonik
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Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA

I agree with pretty much everything you said, except this:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN

As for synths like the virus, if they ever made a softsynth version, access would never sell another hardware synth again.


Access does make a software version, the Virus Powercore. They've been selling them for years and it hasn't hindered sales of the hardware. But again, I reiterate my earlier statement: hardware isn't as much about the sound as it is about the experience and workflow. That's why Access can offer both a software and a hardware version - one for people who want the cost-effectiveness, convenience, and space-savings of a soft synth, the other for people who want the hands-on control; both for the Virus sound.

OK, back on topic now.


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DJ RANN
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Access does make a software version, the Virus Powercore. They've been selling them for years and it hasn't hindered sales of the hardware.


That's because the powercore is nothing but glorified copy protection, by still requiring hardware. The protools version is purely software so it is truly possible to do it, but they knew they were safe on that one because it wasn't much cheaper and the copy protection was solid.

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Originally posted by cryophonik
But again, I reiterate my earlier statement: hardware isn't as much about the sound as it is about the experience and workflow. That's why Access can offer both a software and a hardware version - one for people who want the cost-effectiveness, convenience, and space-savings of a soft synth, the other for people who want the hands-on control; both for the Virus sound.

OK, back on topic now.



+1000.

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EddieZilker
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Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Marijuana Sex Camp

quote:
Originally posted by Kage_
That wasn't really much help. Lol.

That was a great attempt at that song though.

I'd also love to know how Deadmau5 gets such full & tight basslines, aswell as his kicks.


Unless you have and/or are somewhat familiar with Ableton I didn't think it would be much help, either, but I thought it might provide a little insight - like the stack of effects on that bass-line, towards the end.

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Zak McKracken
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i also think the project file could be downloaded somewhere on that page.

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mysticalninja
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Keep in mind that Deadmau5 judging from one of his youtube videos uses external mastering done by professionals who mixdowns each channel for him.


quote:
And then after tracking if your taking stems over to a big console mixing desk for furthur mixing and mastering, your sound is getting even better.



not true he masters his own tracks, and only a few are mixed on consoles.


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mysticalninja
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Don't believe a word you read or see about what he uses. The reason a camera is there is to promote something. He was all over FL, until a better offer came up, the suddenly he was using a completely different set of tools. It's all marketing. Just think about this: he recently said that he's been using certain plugs (fxpansion I think) for nearly all his tracks over the past few years, but during the past few years there were only mentions of other plugins. See what I'm getting at?


Gah i hope mau5 clears this up, cause that's bs. he never only used fl.
he probably won't though. he stopped posting here awhile ago =(


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mysticalninja
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Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by cryophonik
That's why Access can offer both a software and a hardware version - one for people who want the cost-effectiveness, convenience, and space-savings of a soft synth, the other for people who want the hands-on control; both for the Virus sound.


if they really wanted to do that, they would of just released a separate VSTi version


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