But how does Canada know that this thing is yours and not the guy claiming its his?

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Originally posted by cronodevir But how does Canada know that this thing is yours and not the guy claiming its his?

they don't. You go to court and the team that has the most money almost always wins. I have a book at home detailing some incredible cases where there was absolutely no doubt regarding the original creator yet each time, they lost.

the only real safeguard to not getting your music ripped , repackaged and sold is to make the song famous before the other guy. It is completely illogical concerning the actual law but that is just how things tend to work out. The person that makes the song a hit has the capital to defend the ownership. Unless you have a lot of money to waste on lawyers , you are fucked.

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Originally posted by ******** No it isn't the same,

it is. You can go thru the actual legal document or assume this snippit from wikipedia is correct

"
While copyright in the United States automatically attaches upon the creation of an original work of authorship, registration with the Copyright Office puts a copyright holder in a better position if litigation arises over the copyright. A copyright holder desiring to register his or her copyright should do the following"

maybe check out this link as it dumbs it down in laymen's terms.

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/f...l.html#register

i think perhaps you misread my post as "all rules" . I was only talking about the automatic legal ownership bit.

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Originally posted by ******** There are other cases where people actually won their law suits.

Quite possible. But i think the odds are extremely small. Chances are they won a criminal suite which awards the winner absolutely nothing and if it was a civil suite, then they had alot of money. There are many cases where artists will just settle out court regardless of the actual incident in that it just ends up being alot cheaper.

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Originally posted by ******** The courts decide.

and depending on what country and the circumstances.


12 randomly selected people with absolutely no knowledge of music. Aren't legal systems fantastic.

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Of course you know, the individual is empowered to act to enact justice, should they be willing to accept the potential outcome in full. Although I'm not condoning the cost of weapons or getting a hit done if you have the connections, or cutting some vehcile brake lines or poisining someone can be a lot more cost effective then a long drawn out court process.

hahaha very nice

i'm not quite sure why that was directed to me.

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Originally posted by ******** Actually it isn't the same. Read into it more, I've been reading about copyright law for about 8 years, and I know that the way copyright is treated in Canada IS NOT the same as the US, while there are some similiarities, registering in the US is far more advisable than registering in Canada.

please explain to me how this (USA)

When is my work protected?
Your work is under copyright protection the moment it is created and fixed in a tangible form that it is perceptible either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.

differs from this

In Canada all artistic works are copyrighted by default, including musical productions.

yes the wording but to any lawyer, they are the same.Like using the word notwithstanding in one case and nevertheless in another. I mean honestly How is it actually possible to say you made something without at least some sort of physical expression considering you can't copyright ideas in either cases.And mind reading as far as i know isn't quite perfected. USA is more descriptive because it is explicit regarding what is implicit with in the Canada version.

You realise you included rulings from pre 1900 right ? A bunch of are concerning patents, extension of copyright ....
Went thru them all. There is not one ruling that circumvents the law posted. You just don't understand rulings and what they imply or you are really tired.

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not sure why i wasted so much time but clause 102 from the federal copyright act including all latest amendments. For the person above.

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Omg, I must hurry to copyright my stuff, someone might copy my genius and make a lot of cash on it !!

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Originally posted by ******** PS if you are "putting something out on regular chain release" then it is highly advisable to register officially if your work has earning potential.

I disagree. I'd say it's highly advisable to keep it on the low until the actual release. As soon as the release is official you'll have your evidence. Musical compositions are almost impossible to copyright anyway so I wouldn't recommend spending any money on it.

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Yes, I agree . The context is really important. For most artists (especially on TA) copyrighting is hardly necessary.

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