In the future? The very fact that the ones that aren't evil don't denounce the ones who are anymore shows that the radicals have already taken control.

So, are we going to have some kind of discussion here or are you guys just going to criticise the Arabs until you get tired?

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Originally posted by Lira So, are we going to have some kind of discussion here or are you guys just going to criticise the Arabs until you get tired?

I thought we were talking about Muslims??


now I am confused.

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Originally posted by LazFX I thought we were talking about Muslims?? now I am confused.

So, are we going to have some kind of discussion here or are you guys just going to criticise Arabs/Muslims/Mohammeds-and-Husseins until you get tired?

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Originally posted by LazFX Just so I know who we are hating on... Arabs or Muslims?? I know a few Arabs that are not Muslims and I know a blue eyed cracka that is muslim... so..........

We are not hating on either. Just exploiting how they treat thier women over there and I guess here too after reading that article.

I would assume Mr Blondie is from South Africa. Thier law states that you must be able to read, write and speak Arabic to be a true Muslim. Any other is just a follower and will meet the same fate as a non believer.

Geert Wilders says it best here: "Our culture is better than yours"

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As he sees it, the West suffers from an excess of toleration for those who do not share its tradition of tolerance. "We believe that -- 'we' means the political elite -- that all cultures are equal," he says. "I believe this is the biggest disease today facing Europe. We should wake up and tell ourselves: You're not a xenophobe, you're not a racist, you're not a crazy guy if you say, 'My culture is better than yours.' A culture based on Christianity, Judaism, humanism is better. Look at how we treat women, look at how we treat apostates, look at how we go with the separation of church and state. I can give you 500 examples why our culture is better." He acknowledges that "the majority of Muslims in Europe and America are not terrorists or violent people." But he says "it really doesn't matter that much, because if you don't define your own culture as the best, dominant one, and you allow through immigration people from those countries to come in, at the end of the day you will lose your own identity and your own culture, and your society will change. And our freedom will change -- all the freedoms we have will change." The problem is Islam itself. "I see Islam more as an ideology than as a religion," he explains. His own view of Islam is a fundamentalist one: "According to the Quran, there are no moderate Muslims. It's not Geert Wilders who's saying that, it's the Quran saying that. It's many imams in the world who decide that. It's the people themselves who speak about it and talk about the terrible things -- the genital mutilation, the honor killings. This is all not Geert Wilders, but those imams themselves who say this is the best way of Islam." Yet he insists that his antagonism toward Islam reflects no antipathy toward Muslims: "I make a distinction between the ideology . . . and the people. . . . There are people who call themselves Muslims and don't subscribe to the full part of the Quran. And those people, of course, we should invest [in], we should talk to."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122...ss_opinion_main

Preach on, Geert... preach on.

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Originally posted by The17sss Geert Wilders says it best here: "Our culture is better than yours" http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122...ss_opinion_main Preach on, Geert... preach on.

Is it me or is Geert refering to Liberals?..........

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Originally posted by The17sss In the future? The very fact that the ones that aren't evil don't denounce the ones who are anymore shows that the radicals have already taken control.

Good point. Goooooood point.

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im very surprised the Dutch government has ostracised this man after a filmaker got stabbed to death in a similar context, with a note left on the body threatening more human life.

With that being said, i only know the name of one dutch MP, and his name is Geert Wilders.

edit:imagine if tijs verwest ran for mp, do u think hed win

For Allah's sake...

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