So let me get this straight... Its okay for ADL to exist, but when Islam has something like this, its bad? The Jewish influence on United States is vast, why till this day the American citizens haven't figured that out yet is beyond me. People are so mixed up in this "Muslims trying to take over the world" bullshit, that they haven't realized that Judaism is in the process or has already succeeded into doing just that. Stop wandering along with the mass-media outlets. Dig deeper and get the true stories.
And if you don't believe what I mean by the Jewish takeover, here is a starting list to set you on the right path. Now I wonder why Israel has so much support...
Originally posted by Arbiter
no acts of hatred, discrimination, intimidation and coercion are likely to result from the defamation of religions no one surviving believes in...
Arbiter's Final Solution?
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Feb-16-2009 15:02
Aortik
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Dec 2008
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by haqq
So let me get this straight... Its okay for ADL to exist, but when Islam has something like this, its bad? The Jewish influence on United States is vast, why till this day the American citizens haven't figured that out yet is beyond me. People are so mixed up in this "Muslims trying to take over the world" bullshit, that they haven't realized that Judaism is in the process or has already succeeded into doing just that. Stop wandering along with the mass-media outlets. Dig deeper and get the true stories.
And if you don't believe what I mean by the Jewish takeover, here is a starting list to set you on the right path. Now I wonder why Israel has so much support...
What would [is?] so bad about a Jewish dominion? They'd turn the world into some pluralist, economic powerhouse, oh nooooo.
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Feb-16-2009 15:14
Arbiter
Naked Power Organ
Registered: May 2002
Location:
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Originally posted by Aortik
Arbiter's Final Solution?
Hey, I'm just following the UN's lead here...
Feb-16-2009 17:39
Krypton
83.798 g/6.022x10^23
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
Israel basically has a seat on the Security Council. It can do anything it wants. I think the UN should fix the Security Council 'no veto' clause to provide for a way to override a veto. But it should only be for the case in which there is just one veto out of the 5 permanent members.
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Feb-16-2009 18:07
Lebezniatnikov
Stupidity Annoys Me
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: DC
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Originally posted by Krypton
Israel basically has a seat on the Security Council. It can do anything it wants. I think the UN should fix the Security Council 'no veto' clause to provide for a way to override a veto. But it should only be for the case in which there is just one veto out of the 5 permanent members.
I don't think there's any disagreement about the need to reform the voting structure of the Security Council, though I'd only point out that Israel is by no means the only (or best) example of a country having a de facto veto. Look how helpless the SC has been in addressing human rights issues in Burma or Sudan.
This is an excellent summary of issues related to reform (including enlargement and democratization of the Council) and is a definite must-read for anyone interested in debating the efficacy and relevance of the Security Council or the United Nations.
Re: United Nations passes a gag order on insulting religions (aka free speech killer)
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
A new chapter in the rise of fundamentalism is here. The decline of our culture and society as we know it has began. Religion, in particularly Islam, has scored a huge victory here. Makes me wonder why BBC News all of a sudden has stopped posting about women's rights in Muslim countries ...
Check out Tainter's 'The collapse of complex societies'. So far the best part of it has been the description of the Roman decline.
Mysticisim is usually cited as a sign post for decline / comming declin. I don't see why the religions of today won't be the mysticisim of the future.
I don't agree with a ban but I do think it's a good idea to be civil and to avoid provocation for provocations sake.
Feb-16-2009 20:20
atbell
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Originally posted by BARS-N-STARS
The UN is the biggest joke. If the UN could/would do their job the United States would feel the need to police the world. America could save billions a year doing thier f@cking job!
The UN does it's job, it established international consensus.
The enforcement of consensus is not a priority because it is recognized as a task that is massive and that is in violation of national soverignty.
It's no surprise that a flag wavin unilateralist doesn't understand that though.
Feb-16-2009 20:29
atbell
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2007
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi
EDIT: as shown in recent events in Kyrgigistan sp?, Russia is making efforts to stand up to Nato, it will be interesting to see if there is a shift of balance in the policing aspect over the coming decades.
These events were not against NATO but against the US.
Central Asia is the first area where the US presence is being removed. Expect more in the comming years.
Feb-16-2009 20:38
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast
Re: Re: United Nations passes a gag order on insulting religions (aka free speech killer)
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Originally posted by atbell
Our culture has been declining for a while now.
Culture is always touted as being in decline, you'd swear that one day it will simply disappear.
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Mysticisim is usually cited as a sign post for decline / comming declin. I don't see why the religions of today won't be the mysticisim of the future.
I don't agree with a ban but I do think it's a good idea to be civil and to avoid provocation for provocations sake.
Don't you see something as drastic as a gag order a step towards mysticism? Maybe even a gigantic leap? This is agenda-based censorship. Not merely a deference for the sake of peace and order (yeah right), but a supposedly enforceable edict on saying things. I agree that it should not be in a nation's stated interest to combat religions with military force, but suddenly insult is outlawed?
As a Pastafarian, it is well within my religious right - no, duty - to slight people of other older, more established religions. The UN is suppressing my particular right to practice my religion, thus insulting me!
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Feb-16-2009 23:17
haqq
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2007
Location: High in the sky
quote:
Originally posted by Aortik
What would [is?] so bad about a Jewish dominion? They'd turn the world into some pluralist, economic powerhouse, oh nooooo.
Maybe their following their on schedule as opposed as the greater good for United States. And maybe I am one of those conspiracy freaks! But I wouldn't be surprised if the attacks by the 9/11 were a mastermind of the Jewish community.
Wait... stop... Before your brainwashed-brain goes all out.
Think of what happened after 9/11 it was a decline of a religion, people, and region that did not have the greatest ties with the Jewish population. Not lets look back since when the Estevánico of Azamor entered within the 1500's to the great country of United States was their any issues with Muslims/Arabs/"Terrorist" in the US? Never! The Muslims and Americans co-existed peacefully with no labels being thrown around and no media to propagate the masses.
Now it has changed drastically. The Media is what people follow - no one has the IQ of a squirrel to maybe think "hey maybe we should read a book and do our own non-poisoned research" and to add-on who is the media controlled by? And I'm talking about, TimeWarner, Disney, Viacom, NBC, Fox and more... you guessed it, its not Gentiles.
As I end my post I can only say, FREE YOUR MIND. Not through trance like some fanatics on this board say. But by knowledge, as the great Malcolm X said... "knowledge is power."
Feb-17-2009 01:36
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by haqq
Maybe their following their on schedule as opposed as the greater good for United States. And maybe I am one of those conspiracy freaks! But I wouldn't be surprised if the attacks by the 9/11 were a mastermind of the Jewish community.
Wait... stop... Before your brainwashed-brain goes all out.
Think of what happened after 9/11 it was a decline of a religion, people, and region that did not have the greatest ties with the Jewish population. Not lets look back since when the Estevánico of Azamor entered within the 1500's to the great country of United States was their any issues with Muslims/Arabs/"Terrorist" in the US? Never! The Muslims and Americans co-existed peacefully with no labels being thrown around and no media to propagate the masses.
Now it has changed drastically. The Media is what people follow - no one has the IQ of a squirrel to maybe think "hey maybe we should read a book and do our own non-poisoned research" and to add-on who is the media controlled by? And I'm talking about, TimeWarner, Disney, Viacom, NBC, Fox and more... you guessed it, its not Gentiles.
As I end my post I can only say, FREE YOUR MIND. Not through trance like some fanatics on this board say. But by knowledge, as the great Malcolm X said... "knowledge is power."
if knowledge really is power then it looks like youre fucking defenceless.