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stren
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Originally posted by Sorin.16v
Scuderia Ferrari. Always.


wtf is this ? that's not F60, that's some photoshop work lol
shows you are a TRUE ferrari fan

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Originally posted by love_child
Anyone going to see the Grand Prix in Toronto this summer?


You mean the movie of course ?


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LKD
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what grand prix in toronto? I actually double checked the schedule to make sure I didnt miss one out..lol


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so hold on a second...is the BrawnGP Mercedes gonna be a clear white car all season?


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if their pace is genuine, they will be awarded sponsor stickers


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LKD
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Paddock Talk: Brawn under spotlight
Eurosport - Wed, 18 Mar 16:09:00 2009

Spain: Rubens Barrichello dismisses suggestions that Brawn GP has pulled clear of the F1 field in testing because the BGP001 contravenes rules governing weight and the rear diffuser. He told Marca: "You're asking are we legal? When someone is behind, it is easier to say that your rivals are breaking the rules than to do better work yourself. Our team is very much within the regulations."

Germany: McLaren bucks a trend which has seen many of Brawn's rivals, including Renault and Ferrari, level the accusations. "We accept the rule interpretation of the FIA," Norbert Haug told Express. "Therefore the solutions seen so far are legal."

Germany: The former Honda team's head Ross Brawn has been likened to Albert Einstein in a caricature by German newspaper Bild. "It will take the other teams some time to copy our ideas, if they manage to at all," he said.

Britain: The press have come down hard on FIA's decision to award the 2009 drivers' title to the driver with most race wins. The Guardian opined: "It would be a shame if, while encouraging drivers to do what they are paid handsomely to do by winning races, the FIA has adopted its own flawed scheme purely to snub the teams and keep them in line."

The Daily Mail, meanwhile, suggested anti-Britain motives: "It is a fact that, if the new system was retrospectively applied to the 2008 results, Felipe Massa would have won the title. Are grand prix bosses out to get (Lewis) Hamilton?"

France: The FIA has also introduced a voluntary budget cap following a meeting of the World Motor Sport Council in Paris. The annual limit, set at 33 million euros, is "an alternative to running under the existing rules", and allows teams greater technical freedom relating to the car's underbody, moveable wings and engines without rev limits or frozen development; plus no limits on testing during the season.

Britain: Bernie Ecclestone has ruled out a return to Silverstone for the British Grand Prix, even if that means the race disappears altogether. If Donington - which has a 10-year deal but faces construction problems - does not join the calendar as scheduled, their place will be awarded to another host nation. "We left there because I'm trying to improve facilities throughout the world, and when I get people to build new circuits to the standard which we're trying to reach, how can we go back to Silverstone?"

Germany: Meanwhile, the future of the loss-making German GP at Hockenheim will be decided next week. News agency SID reported that authorities have scheduled a meeting on March 25 to determine whether or not they should organise a race at the circuit in 2010. Currently the race alternates with the Nurburgring to minimise financial outlay.

South Africa: The commercial backing of South African province Gauteng has moved from Renault to BMW-Sauber ahead of the 2009 season. However, that does not mean the country is definitely set to return to the F1 calendar.

Spain: Pedro de la Rosa has said he will leave F1 at the end of 2009 if he does not return to a race cockpit. The Spaniard, who at 38 is the oldest driver in the sport, said the new test restrictions make a full-time test role untenable. "If I cannot race and I cannot even test, I will go to another category. Life does not end at Formula One," he told Spanish journalists.

Switzerland: Takuma Sato's manager has taken a parting shot at Red Bull. The Japanese driver tested several times over the winter for Red Bull's secondary team Toro Rosso but failed to secure a role even as a reserve driver. Andrew Gilbert-Scott told Motorsport Aktuell: "What they said and what happened often did not match up. I tried to arrange a discussion with (Red Bull founder) Dietrich Mateschitz, but he didn't want it. It was always 'get sponsors, get sponsors!' Everything was confusing, not open, disappointing. We are now looking at IRL or sports car projects in the United States."

Germany: BMW driver Nick Heidfeld has revealed he will not compromise on comfort despite the biting economic situation. "I know that many in the team have, for example. had their flights downgraded, and also their hotels. Obviously more attention is being paid to (expenses)," he told the DPA news. "(But) it doesn't affect me with the flights - because my contract states which class I fly."

Britain: A museum honouring David Coulthard will be shut down, curator Wendy McKenzie has confirmed. Four years ago Coulthard's sister Lynsay moved away from their birthplace Twynholm and passed on responsibilities to fan McKenzie. However, with the Scot now retired and set to act as a commentator for the BBC from 2009, interest has waned.

Finland: Heikki Kovalainen has bucked the trend among drivers this winter by putting on a significant amount of weight. Most of his rivals have shed kilos due to the introduction of heavy KERS systems, but the McLaren driver weighs nearly five kilos more than he did a year ago, according to newspaper Helsingin Sanomat, which reported he looked to put on more muscle mass.

Germany: Mark Webber fears Red Bull Racing has been left behind by its rivals ahead of the opening race in Australia. "The car did not feel bad, and that is the most alarming thing," Webber told Auto Motor und Sport. "The others have developed better than we have."

Britain: Frank Williams believes 2009 represents his team's best opportunity in a decade to re-establish itself amongst F1's front-runners - due to the sport's sweeping rule changes and cost-cutting initiatives.

Britain: Long-time McLaren team member Tyler Alexander, who worked with founder Bruce McLaren after joining the Woking squad in 1963 as a mechanic, is to retire this month. The American later served as chief engineer and a company director, with many years also spent on the US racing scene.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/18032...-spotlight.html


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FIA could defer new points system
Fri, 20 Mar 18:26:00 2009

FIA has said it is prepared to defer to 2010 a controversial new system awarding the Formula One drivers' championship to whoever wins most races.

"If, for any reason, the Formula One teams do not now agree with the new system, its implementation will be deferred until 2010," FIA said in a statement.

The Formula One Teams' Association had earlier accused the FIA of acting outside the rules when it decided to change the points scoring system at a meeting in Paris.

FOTA added that the teams had "unanimously agreed to question the validity of this decision".

"It is too late for FIA to impose a change for the 2009 season that has not obtained the unanimous agreement of all the competitors properly entered into the 2009 Formula One Championship," the statement added.

FOTA had proposed changing the scoring structure to a 12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1 points format from the existing 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 but the FIA's world motor sport council rejected that.

The FIA said the `winner takes all' proposal, which was subsequently approved, had been put forward by commercial rights holder Bernie Ecclestone after he told the sport's governing body the teams were in favour of it.

FOTA said teams were prepared to work with the FIA to devise a new system for the 2010 season.

The rule change received a mixed reaction when it was announced. World champion Lewis Hamilton said he had doubts about the new system.

"I think it's a shame what's happening to Formula One," said the 24-year-old Briton in a statement.

"It's hard to believe that these recent decisions will improve things for the trackside spectators and TV viewers, who should always be our number one priority, but I guess we'll have to wait and see."

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http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/20032009/58/fia-defer-new-points-system.html


hmmm with 6 days until qualifying....


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Orko
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That is what happens when a senile old men are running f1. fuck, stop messing with the rules already!

Bring back 12 lap qualifying, and increase the point differential between first and second to 4 points again.

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LKD
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That is what happens when a senile old men are running f1. fuck, stop messing with the rules already!

Bring back 12 lap qualifying, and increase the point differential between first and second to 4 points again.


some would call you a backward thinker living in the past....


I really am undecided about this whole thing..


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^ I liked the FOTA proposal to change the points to 12/9/etc in order to encourage more fighting to the finish.

Way better than Bernie's stupid medals idea.

Bernie and Max need to GTFO of F1 and the FIA.


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Orko
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Originally posted by El K Dee
some would call you a backward thinker living in the past....


I really am undecided about this whole thing..


yeah and thats why we are adopting slicks, which we had 10 years ago, lower aero packages, which we had 10 years ago, and KERS and standard ECU's which were introduced 10 years ago. Old ideas are not bad ones.

The new ideas which we have had over the last 10 years have been assed backwards, and have done nothing but to perpetuate the very circumstances which they sought to circumvent.

Going from 6 points 8 points for second place was precisely put in place because of Schumacher. All they did was tell drivers that sitting back for second place was just fine in the long run. They need a greater points incentive to go for 1st.

As for the 12 lap quali, it was so much fun to watch. Fine limit the number of tires they can use, but the last 10 minutes were always bonkers. Plus it always gave Minardi a chance for some TV action, when none of the big boys wanted to go out.

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lol and people say I'm bitter...


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Originally posted by El K Dee
lol and people say I'm bitter...


lol count me in for one who always gets blamed for being bitter and stuck in the past when racing is concerned. But hey, I've been on a steady diet of ESPN Classic - Formula 1 Retro showcasing the 70's seasons of glory recently. Fatass rear wheels and stupid small front ones. Tons of innovation and 25 car grids (35 cars show up to qualify!!).

I agree with what Orko is saying though. They tried to finesse the points rules (and tech rules) in the late 90's and early 2000's to give more parity while at the same time restricting what teams could do to the cars to make them faster. There was the whole Shuey dominance thing that was creating these conditions and they just couldn't leave well enough alone and accept that he was the fastest driver of the day in the best car. Nobody complained in 1988 when McLaren won 15 of 16 races.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the point of motorsport to find new and exciting ways to go faster? i've said it before and I will keep saying it: Make the rules more general in order to encourage innovation within the sport. Also, make the points table such that it rewards fighting for wins and podiums and not just consistent finishes.


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