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Originally posted by Theran Never thought of it in that way. If what you're stating is true, that it's maybe a good thing to do it! Only problem I see is, that if everybody does that, you'll end up having as much labels as there are artists and what's that going to do for the music business

Honestly, i think we have come to this point already.
I think the future will be exactly this, several places (reverbnation, last.fm, audiojelly, even mypace) has some option where u can sell your own music.
Everyone going as independent artists is defintely something i can see happening in the near future.
Of course, with youtube, spotify and stuff like that it is all going to fall apart, music is getting free for everyone.
But producers gotta earn something or get a job at the mall. (which means no time to make music)

So if you are going to make it in this EDM world, you cant just make good music, you have to make the best music.

My thoughts anyways.

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Interesting points of view, I'll have to think that one over

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the reason i wrote this post was due to knowing it was possible to write,produce and sell all your own work.
due to being in a digital age and with a huge range off software at our finger tips. the possibility's seem endless!

and i think also with this vast array of software and hardware ect. sucks you in to believing "banging out good tunes" will lead to greatness.

I've been given more to think about and thank you to those who have posted this far.

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Originally posted by owien no my main agenda is to have my tunes played out in clubs. only my concern is that without a label putting my tunes out, will only lead to well nothing.

If this is your biggest goal then a label can do nothing but help you. If they sign a track they're going to promote it, which promotes you. Artists usually don't like to give tracks out that they have signed to labels, but you can send them out at your own risk. The label isn't going to care as long as the tune isn't getting leaked.

If I was you, I would submit demos to labels and if they're interested ask for a detailed explanation on how they plan to market your music. I've signed multiple tunes to my label, and not many have asked how I planned to promote their music, although I am promoting the hell out of it and much more so than other labels in my opinion. Not only have I harvested tons and tons of personal, direct emails to the big guns, but I also have hunted down companies (Coca Cola, Pixar, Mitsubishi, Abercrombie, etc) to submit music to. We're currently talking to two snow board companies right now interested in licensing some tracks.

Again - A label can only help you in my opinion. Do your best to get them interested and ask for a detailed explanation on the promotion process and go with your gut. Don't be afraid to ask for any stipulations in the contract. All they can say is no.

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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley If I was you, I would submit demos to labels and if they're interested ask for a detailed explanation on how they plan to market your music. I've signed multiple tunes to my label, and not many have asked how I planned to promote their music, although I am promoting the hell out of it and much more so than other labels in my opinion. Not only have I harvested tons and tons of personal, direct emails to the big guns, but I also have hunted down companies (Coca Cola, Pixar, Mitsubishi, Abercrombie, etc) to submit music to. We're currently talking to two snow board companies right now interested in licensing some tracks.

Seeing your posts around this forums kinda shows me that you are really hard working to get your thing from the ground. I think you can expect one of my newer tracks anytime soon!

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i think some of you are very narrowminded when saying that the industry will flood from too many labels releasing too much shit, yes it will happen but so what? Its already alot of shit music from the big labels flooding the industri and it has been since late 90s. The only thing u gain by having fewer labels with more artists is less creative freedom for the artist. The more labels the more likely is that u get through and with more music comes also more good music (and more shit music but as always u need to search to find gold, no one will give it to you). Yes it will be harder to make money in this industry but I dont think its impossible. Who it will be hard for is formal label owner who haved lived for free in a decade now stealing money from artists like Lolo (who should have had alot more looking at his disco). Theres no reason for big labels to exist imo, they dont do shit for you anyway, yes the track might be playd in a club but it will anyways if its good enough. Djs or their management do actually listen to alot of the promos they get and if its good enough it will be playd, no mather what label it belongs. Another thing that people seems to forget is that 95-99% of buyers dont care what label the music is from, most of them dont even know or want to know, they only care about the artist name. In the end its about making a name for yourself and your releases and that can just as good be done with your own label, its probably even easier as you will have total control of everything yourself. Pluss its really fun and stimulating.

How many artists had a release on a big label and then went on to create a label of their own? I think the answer would be alot. I guess you have to get raped by a label first...and then you can start your own.

Labels don't have to be a buffer to the audience. You make it that way.

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Originally posted by Bayou Boy I think the answer would be alot. I guess you have to get raped by a label first...and then you can start your own.

u just know u are getting screwed in the behind when signing a 14 page contract u dont understand shit about and when asking they only say its a standard contract, dont worry about it. wish i never did that. and i did it twice and now I have to ask them each time I plan to release anything on my label with those artist-name beacuse they have options for two more releases. fuck em im just gonna make another alias.

I find labels are the best way to release music and have it heard on a large scale. It does seem pointless at times, to sign away your music for a mere 40 units sold. Most unknown artists that give tracks out for free, remain unknown. If you are a real go-getter, you might be able to bypass a label and do the promotions yourself. This would be the rare person though, who has the ability to network and hit the streets, clubs, ect.

Once you make a name for yourself through labels, then maybe you can give tracks out for free and the masses will download them. If a label or advertising company wants to liscense a track, you could get a music lawyer to deal with that.

I think we all want to be "label free", but we need labels, at least in the beginning. They are a great staring point.

Remember, a lot of the tracks you get signed will end up on the torrent sites. So if you sell 50, you can bet 100,000 will be downloaded from the torrents. It's a double edged sword, of course you don't want your tracks being pirated, but on the other hand you are getting free mass exposure. It's almost like you are giving them out for free.

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Originally posted by zodiac9 Remember, a lot of the tracks you get signed will end up on the torrent sites. So if you sell 50, you can bet 100,000 will be downloaded from the torrents. It's a double edged sword, of course you don't want your tracks being pirated, but on the other hand you are getting free mass exposure. It's almost like you are giving them out for free.

this is true.. .
talking from the djing side here..

so many dj's wouldnt play the songs they play if they had to pay for everyone of them...

picture.. in a club..
a dj is playing a song he got for free of a blog ...
if the song is good ... ppl go up to the dj and ask what song it is..
write it in there phone.. download it the next day when they're scattered...

then the next week they show their friends.. listen to this song i downloaded... la la la and it goes on..
i think its GREAT for exposure..
because.. well talking from australia here...
SOOO many song wouldnt get played out if dj's had to pay for them..

this isnt just because of the money side..
heaps of songs always have that restriction shit on beatport...

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Cybernetika Doesn't have a label [all his music is free], And his albums have been on bitorrent before. I wonder what that says about him? [And no, he didn't but them there]

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