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Subtle
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Domesticated
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Was there something that did not make sense to you ?


A compressor can be used in different ways for shades of effect, but in general I would say the result is quite noticeable, even using relatively subtle settings.

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then why does a compressor bring up the noise floor. even if it a sine wave with no dynamics. that is effecting frequencies.


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it'nt adding those frequencies tho. Just making them more noticeable. Of course every compressor will somehow change the spectral content but that wouldn't really be what it is used for.I think you know that tho and are just being a buzz kill

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i'm just curious cause you can't do that with just volume, and people are saying it does nothing but lower the volume above the threshold. is it really just an automated volume knob? i dont think so


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RichieV
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essentially. That isn't to say they don't colour things but that is a personal choice of the designer and it is usually to emulate the old compressors everyone has a hardon for. But yes, a compressor is pretty much an annoying mom that is always turning down the music except she has taken some sort of stimulant and she does it really really fast. She also has OCD and turns the volume back up whenever it gets too low because ants really enjoy low music.

hope that clears things up.

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quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
i'm just curious cause you can't do that with just volume, and people are saying it does nothing but lower the volume above the threshold. is it really just an automated volume knob? i dont think so


Check my first post at the second page of this thread


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Curious what that is then, since there is no standard recipe for compression settings. every compressor has different character and every instrument needs different treatment.


It has nothing to do with a particular setting. It has to do with modifying each setting in particular order so that you can hear each turn of the knob very definitively.

1. Set the attack to the lowest setting, release to lowest setting, ratio to it's highest setting.
2. Turn down the threshold to activate the compressor.
3. Tune the attack.
4. Tune the release.
5. Tune the ratio.
5. Tune the threshold.

This is from "Mixing With Your Mind."


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that means absolutely nothing to anyone that doesn't already know why they would use a certain setting.

you won't understand how to use a compressor until you understand what problem it can fix.

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quote:
Originally posted by Theran
Check my first post at the second page of this thread


THis one?
quote:
"That's actually a equalizer or a sidechain compressor, a normal compressor doesn't eliminate frequencies, it - as it says - compresses the sound. It basicly does the following: If you take a sound, in the waveform there are lot's of peaks, some higher that the other."


I'm not talking about an equalizer or a sidechain compressor. I'm talking about a sound with no peaks, no parts higher than others, a pure sinewave "block". A compressor will bring its noisefloor up. you can't do that with an automated volume knob. what is it doing?


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you lost me at sound with no peaks

what is the hz of the sinewave.
What is the peak value
what is the threshhold
was is the attack
what is the dbfs of the noise level

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Originally posted by derail
A compressor lowers the volume when the incoming signal goes over the compressor's threshold.

People think compression is this magic "gel", that it does things to frequencies, all these other things.

A compressor turns the volume down when the incoming audio is loud enough, when it's over the specified threshold. That's it. That's all.

Yes, HOW it turns the volume down, how quickly, how much, and how quickly the volume is turned back up when the incoming audio gets quieter and drops back below the threshold, will affect what the end result will be.

And, as a result of turning the volume down when the audio is loud, but leaving the volume at full when the audio is quiet, the signal is "compressed". The dynamic range is reduced. Then you can turn the volume up and the average level of the audio will be higher.

There are exotic "compressors" which may only affect certain frequencies, or have other modifications. But standard compressors only turn the volume down. That's all they do.


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quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
you lost me at sound with no peaks

what is the hz of the sinewave.
What is the peak value
what is the threshhold
was is the attack
what is the dbfs of the noise level


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