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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

I read yesterday that city hall is telling the business owners that they actually do not have to remit - just charge 5 cents for the bags and they can do whatever they want with the proceeds.

That decision seems to have been panned by people of all stripes, but I think it's the only good move they've made so far. This makes it much closer to ordinary itemized pricing as opposed to a tax, and businesses can use it to lower prices or improve operations. Doesn't mean they will, of course, but the ability to re-invest means that competitive forces and consumer choice will dictate in part how that money is spent.

Now let's see how long it takes for them to change their mind.


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Old Post Jun-02-2009 22:43  Canada
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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

Sure business can keep the profits. Why do u think some of them have used this as an excuse to do this nationally? But i do wonder how long it will take for fed up consumers to force them to go back to the old way. I for one hate playing the guessing game when it comes to deciding how many bags i need. A lot of stores are now making you bag your own. Why when paying the prices at full service supermarkets should this inconvenience be the norm?

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Silky Johnson
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Registered: Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
I for one hate playing the guessing game when it comes to deciding how many bags i need.





Bahahahahaha, yes, because it's such a fucking mind boggling endeavor.

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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

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Originally posted by jennypie
Bahahahahaha, yes, because it's such a fucking mind boggling endeavor.

Honestly now, it's called customer service. Before I had a car I used to shop at that god-awful Food Basics that charged for bags, and I didn't have a problem with that, but every time while they were ringing up shit they had to ask how many bags I needed. I'm looking at $200 worth of groceries trying to visually estimate, knowing that if I'm off by one I have to fish around in my wallet for change because the bill's already been paid. You're the one who's had 10 years of experience bagging the shit, how the fuck am I supposed to know? I don't care about the money, but don't ask me to do your job for you.

Is it mind-boggling? No, I guess not, but it's a goddamned inconvenience. It's like ordering a cheeseburger at McDonald's, being asked precisely how many minutes you want them to cook the patty for, then being handed the bun and patty and a slice of processed cheese on a tray and being told to assemble it yourself. If you're going to give these people jobs, they should be providing some kind of value for that money, and I don't think that scanning a bunch of bar codes really counts.

If I'm buying two items at Wal-mart, sure, I'll use the self checkout and bag it myself to speed things up. Not with 50 different grocery items. Part of the reason I'm there is to receive a service, and if one store doesn't want to provide it, I'll find another one that does.


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Silky Johnson
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Welp, at the end of the day, it's YOUR choice to get all worked about it. Which means the joke's on you, lol.

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I never had one cashier help me with how many bags at either no frills or food basics. More often than not, I paid for an extra bag that went to landfill. The only winner is the retailer who makes 300% profit margin on these bags, which are the highest GPM item in their store. Government doesn't get a penny. It makes no cents.


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Ania_xox
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quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Honestly now, it's called customer service. Before I had a car I used to shop at that god-awful Food Basics that charged for bags, and I didn't have a problem with that, but every time while they were ringing up shit they had to ask how many bags I needed. I'm looking at $200 worth of groceries trying to visually estimate, knowing that if I'm off by one I have to fish around in my wallet for change because the bill's already been paid. You're the one who's had 10 years of experience bagging the shit, how the fuck am I supposed to know? I don't care about the money, but don't ask me to do your job for you.

Is it mind-boggling? No, I guess not, but it's a goddamned inconvenience. It's like ordering a cheeseburger at McDonald's, being asked precisely how many minutes you want them to cook the patty for, then being handed the bun and patty and a slice of processed cheese on a tray and being told to assemble it yourself. If you're going to give these people jobs, they should be providing some kind of value for that money, and I don't think that scanning a bunch of bar codes really counts.

If I'm buying two items at Wal-mart, sure, I'll use the self checkout and bag it myself to speed things up. Not with 50 different grocery items. Part of the reason I'm there is to receive a service, and if one store doesn't want to provide it, I'll find another one that does.


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Time2Burn
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Registered: Mar 2001
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I'm just upset that I threw out hundreds of plastic bag a couple years ago... man if I had known they'd be worth something one day.

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Intangible
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Registered: Feb 2008
Location: Dancing with strangers in dark rooms - Toronto

http://www.chicobag.com/

Fits in you purse perfectly and holds a lot.


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Silky Johnson
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Yeah, I have a fortune sitting in my pantry.

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FunkyCrew
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Soul Shakin'

quote:
Originally posted by Intangible
http://www.chicobag.com/

Fits in you purse perfectly and holds a lot.


^ that is pretty cute
and looks like it's rewashable too

for now I'm glad I kept all the big Zara/Coach/Sephora bags and reuse them


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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

Prett bad when you are spending $500 on a pair of jeans and they arent even allowed to give you a freaking bag to go with them.

Only in Canada

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