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Originally posted by Cpt.Cocaine This thread was delayed.

Crazy update:

BOMB THREAT ON AIR FRANCE FLIGHT THE DAY IT TOOK OFF!

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Originally posted by The17sss Crazy update: BOMB THREAT ON AIR FRANCE FLIGHT THE DAY IT TOOK OFF! http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cach...us&client=opera

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They've found BOTH the data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder.

Absolutely stoked. Cannot wait to find out what went wrong, although I wonder if they (the French authorities) will release the audio recordings.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ They've found BOTH the data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder. Absolutely stoked. Cannot wait to find out what went wrong, although I wonder if they (the French authorities) will release the audio recordings.

From the analysis they've been able to conduct already, they believe that nozzles, used to direct air-flow to a device that measures air-speed, froze solid when the plane entered a massive storm bank. Unable to determine how fast they were going, pilot confusion led to a series of errors that resulted in the plane stalling. There are actually procedures for avoiding the stall in such conditions but the pilots may not have ascertained the severity of the problem in time to fix it. It should be interesting to find out if that is the case or what it actually was.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker From the analysis they've been able to conduct already, they believe that nozzles, used to direct air-flow to a device that measures air-speed, froze solid when the plane entered a massive storm bank. Unable to determine how fast they were going, pilot confusion led to a series of errors that resulted in the plane stalling. There are actually procedures for avoiding the stall in such conditions but the pilots may not have ascertained the severity of the problem in time to fix it. It should be interesting to find out if that is the case or what it actually was.

Indeed, but the strange thing is that in the late 80s or early 90s there was a series of problems with the speed sensors freezing on planes so protocols were put in place so that even if it did happen, it should not have caused a crash. Sadly, I think a series of pilot errors are going to be the ultimate factor.

My bother in law was actually booked on that flight, but he cancelled a week before

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Originally posted by EddieZilker From the analysis they've been able to conduct already, they believe that nozzles, used to direct air-flow to a device that measures air-speed, froze solid when the plane entered a massive storm bank. Unable to determine how fast they were going, pilot confusion led to a series of errors that resulted in the plane stalling. There are actually procedures for avoiding the stall in such conditions but the pilots may not have ascertained the severity of the problem in time to fix it. It should be interesting to find out if that is the case or what it actually was.

I've practically followed this case every month for the past 2 years. Fascinated with it for some reason.

What you said is right, but they reckon even with all those things going wrong, it shouldn't have made the plane stall.

If they do release the audio clips, it'd be haunting to hear what they screamed.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN My bother in law was actually booked on that flight, but he cancelled a week before

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time. There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ I've practically followed this case every month for the past 2 years. Fascinated with it for some reason. What you said is right, but they reckon even with all those things going wrong, it shouldn't have made the plane stall. If they do release the audio clips, it'd be haunting to hear what they screamed.

Wouldn't the freezing of the air speed indicator just result in the air speed being unknown...surely that wouldn't cause it to crash while cruising...on landing, sure, but not at cruising altitude.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_

I know - He actually does that route quite often. Quite sobering.

TBH, airfrance has quite a shitty record in recent years. I can't actually think of any other 1st world national airlines with as many tragedies in recent years.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker From the analysis they've been able to conduct already, they believe that nozzles, used to direct air-flow to a device that measures air-speed, froze solid when the plane entered a massive storm bank. Unable to determine how fast they were going, pilot confusion led to a series of errors that resulted in the plane stalling. There are actually procedures for avoiding the stall in such conditions but the pilots may not have ascertained the severity of the problem in time to fix it. It should be interesting to find out if that is the case or what it actually was.

Sounds similar to the Turkish Airlines 737-800-flight TK1951 crash near Schiphol in 2009 although then it was a malfunctioning altimeter which caused one error after the other. Indeed interesting to find out what happened here.

http://www.airsafe.com/plane-crash/...1-amsterdam.htm

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Originally posted by DJ RANN TBH, airfrance has quite a shitty record in recent years. I can't actually think of any other 1st world national airlines with as many tragedies in recent years.

They're French. They don't crash, they just go on strike mid-flight.

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Originally posted by Lira They're French. They don't crash, they just go on strike mid-flight.

also: pitot tube.