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Originally posted by Energy_3 you two are like Freud and Carl Jung - given your both intelligent people i'm sure you both understand. Both presented equally valid theories of their times - yet both chose to discredit each other from their wisdom proclaiming one to absolute over the other (although, early on they were best of friends - this is prob not the case here). However, this is not my point, the point is Freud consistently gave Jung a hard time about his theory and vice versa to some extent, and further, he did it in such a manner to an end, to hopefully remove all of jung's credibility, even though Jung perhaps layed the foundation. The point is - look im not moderator or anything Im just a Human on planet earth like the rest of you, i just wish we could take a more appropriate approach when speaking with regards to certain subject matter. i.e. musical notion or anything. Show each other some respect is it that hard - we all have opinions, I have opinions - but it does not mean that I must degrade another person simply to make a point " thats my two cents!

I don't care to "discredit" him. I only care when he throws up asanine insults for no reason, thats the only timeI get on him. If people can't be peacful, they don't deserve to be treated peacfully. Most of what he says I don't even disagree with. But meh, no point in giving him the benefit of the doubt. Look at the music theory thread for instance, its the same shit. He came in, started throwing turds around, and now we are talking about that instead of the topic, and as usual i'll be blamed for "going off topic".

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Originally posted by DigiNut

epic

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Originally posted by Energy_3 you two are like Freud and Carl Jung - given your both intelligent people i'm sure you both understand. Both presented equally valid theories of their times - yet both chose to discredit each other from their wisdom proclaiming one to absolute over the other (although, early on they were best of friends - this is prob not the case here).

I am freud, and chronodevir is always wrong.


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well so much for talking about the radias

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley well so much for talking about the radias

Didn't you say in another thread that you didn't want a Virus because it...

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...excels at nothing...

?

Why a Radias then? I'm not saying it's a bad synth or that you should buy a Virus instead, but, let's face it, the Radias is about as vanilla-flavored a synth you're gonna find. It's a very straightforward all-around synth that is very easy to use and will make the standard range of subtractive sounds, but there's nothing special about it and you'd be hard-pressed to find many people who will point to the Radias as their go-to synth for X-sound. So, I guess what I'm saying is that it's very hard to help you make a decision because the synths you have mentioned are all over the map and range from straight-up subtractive to romplers to PCM to voice-processing synths, etc.

I think the best thing you can do is find a decent subtractive synth and use it for a while and decide whether or not you want/need something else. Find something used and at or below the typical market value so you don't lose money on it if you decide to sell it. The Radias is probably a good choice, although IMO Korg spent an inordinate amount of effort/resources into implementing a ton of FX and FX routing into the Radias, rather than focusing on the substance of the synth itself. But, not to worry, the Radias sounds good and, as already mentioned, has a great interface that is very intuitive and easy to use.

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Originally posted by cryophonik It's a very straightforward all-around synth that is very easy to use and will make the standard range of subtractive sounds, but there's nothing special about it and you'd be hard-pressed to find many people who will point to the Radias as their go-to synth for X-sound. I think the best thing you can do is find a decent subtractive synth and use it for a while and decide whether or not you want/need something else. Find something used and at or below the typical market value so you don't lose money on it if you decide to sell it.

$549 shipped off eBay (rack, used)

Somewhat confusing. You questioned my reasoning for buying the radias, and all but suggested to buy one? (i think) - I can't think of another instrument that is more styled to subtractive synthesis than this. 2 Oscillators with basic wave forms, two filters with one that allows for unique frequency manipulation, and basic ADSR's. It has some nice bells and whistles on it that are not traditional but maybe that's a good thing. I'm not the type to eat my unborn children to be recognized as unique but to say I do not want to produce formulaic BS like everybody else right now would be an under statement. As an example, I'm probably the only person on the planet who owns an ESI JULI@ - Didn't buy it (or anything else) because I wanted to be different, but I'm a huge risk taker and don't mind buying or doing unorthodox things. (You should have seen my boss when I gave somebody Morphine for high blood pressure the other day....It felt so good to have a doctor back my decision up because the BP was so high the patient almost certainly had a huge headache but couldn't communicate that)

Back to the radias!....I felt the deal was too good to pass up, and the demos I saw and what I read helped me to decide I was getting a good deal. It seems like a nice introductory synth for hardware, yet powerful enough to be used for top shelf professional purposes along with my soft synths. I am 99% certain there isn't a sound that the Radias can make that I can't get out of my soft synths, but that could be said for all kinds of gear and soft synths. It's just a different path to getting the sound, and with my limited (none) use of hardware for producing, I think (and I could be wrong) it is a good introduction to outboard gear and considering the price and the fact that I already have a 12 unit rack sitting next to my PC I felt the price/opportunity was too good to pass up, but again, I could be wrong.

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley $549 shipped off eBay (rack, used)

That seems like a good deal!

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Originally posted by DjStephenWiley Somewhat confusing. You questioned my reasoning for buying the radias, and all but suggested to buy one? (i think)

My point was really not so much questioning the Radias as a synth choice, just that your stated reason for not wanting a Virus is inconsistent with the synth you chose IMO. It's not a big deal, though. I mean, seriously, a LOT of people like to make a big deal about the sound of one synth versus another, but when it comes down to it, (popular presets aside) how many of those people can hear a synth in a track and tell you which synth made (or didn't make) that sound? Exactly. So, your reasons for buying a synth should extend beyond "its sound" and focus on usability, features, etc. Therefore, the Radias is a fine choice if it's got what you're looking for. And, if it doesn't, sell it for $600 and buy something else.

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Yea that was my thinking. At $549 with free shipping I'm guessing it will hold its value. I snapped it up on Buy It Now just a few hours after it went up. The cheapest one after that was $675 and I think charged for shipping.

I looked carefully at all the possible synths in my price range. I wanted a nord lead 3 rack, but they were really pushing my price range plus they're very hard to find. I considered the NL2x, but I do plan to get an NL3 eventually do getting the NL2x didn't seem appealing, although in retrospect I could have bought it, learned a lot about Clavia, and then sold it for probably not much less than I bought it for and get the NL3. That was my mistake there I suppose. I never really entertained the idea of buying and re-selling, but I see the professional here like to do it, and now I can see why.

Maybe the Radias will propel me into buying an OAYSY (hopefully not)

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 I don't care to "discredit" him. I only care when he throws up asanine insults for no reason, thats the only timeI get on him. If people can't be peacful, they don't deserve to be treated peacfully. Most of what he says I don't even disagree with. But meh, no point in giving him the benefit of the doubt. Look at the music theory thread for instance, its the same shit. He came in, started throwing turds around, and now we are talking about that instead of the topic, and as usual i'll be blamed for "going off topic".

I apologize in that my choice of words was not elaborated enough to clearly justify what it was that i speak of.

when i speak of discredit i merely mean that you both seem to oppose each other, what one may speak of etc etc thats all. As Digi mentioned I should not get involved and my intentions are not to, thats for sure. Though, i will add i agree with everyone here [ i never take sides], i just want/desire a humane approach to this forum, regardless of how long you guys have been at.

This forum if it as much as so desired, from the people contained within, could become something so valuable in terms of knowledge of music, psychology, or any general principle pertaining to the nature of mankind. As there are is very intellectual people here, and those as not as so much, should be welcomed with open arms to this invaluable vault of wealth. no matter whether you been here a long time or not!

Im so like a hippy - peace on earth is so ever possible

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Originally posted by Energy_3 you two are like Freud and Carl Jung - given your both intelligent people i'm sure you both understand. Both presented equally valid theories of their times

chronodevir is a fat moron from memphis. haven't you seen his posts? this made me rofl so hard:

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 I make pads that use 10 octaves pretty much every time I make a pad.

like that wasn't hilarious enough...

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Originally posted by sixofour.604 You fail at the mechanics of sound. Do you even know the relationship of octaves and the audio spectrum?

the irony kills me

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Originally posted by DigiNut Uh, yeah, I'm an engineer you moron, every octave represents a doubling of the frequency. Which means if you start at A220, which is about as low as you can go before going into sub-bass ranges, you'll have fundamentals all the way up to 112 kHz. That's several octaves above canine hearing range.

i think chronodevir deserves a prize for the biggest self-pwn this forum has ever seen.

Maby I want canines to jam too?

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