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orTofønChiLd
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alright, i mean i do have the cash, was just wondering if the difference was good enough to go to G/C and use foamtak and ruin my walls and paste the foam. Thanks

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Zak McKracken
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there are better solutions that looks good.

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Fledz
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Registered: Sep 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
i don't need to quit i'm always spending my money on other things like buying tracks. I mean how is quality greatly improved by adding just foam. Does it make it sound more analogue? lol

Like I said before, it can be very dependent on the size of room, where your monitors are positioned and what else is in the room (ie furniture).

The main thing acoustic foam can do is minimize the negative effects of the sound from bouncing off walls the walls. Particularly when it comes to the low end. Hence why bass traps can do so much if your monitors are in the corner.

It's not critical but it sure helps. When I move into my own place and find a good room to set up a studio, I'll definitely add a bit of treatment.


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Alphadelta
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Location: Chester, UK

So I wonder how I can improve my room acoustics? I've never really taken acoustics 'too' seriously, simply because I'm still learning all the time, but I'd love it if someone had a look at the two walls (pictured) and tell me if any foam would benefit me? It is a big room (approx 7m x 6m) so I'm tucked into this corner, so if there are any words of wisdom here, consider that!

I'm at a stage now where I'd like to think I can try and compensate 'ok' where my acoustics are lacking... My KRK's are great sounding monitors to me, at least.

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Stealth
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: LA/OC

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Originally posted by Stylz
What about the funkagenda in the studio with?

here's a better look at the funkagenda/mark knight/toolroom studio. unless I'm missing something I don't see any acoustical treatment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCSAsdpByow

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Stylz
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Registered: Jun 2008
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here's a better look at the funkagenda/mark knight/toolroom studio. unless I'm missing something I don't see any acoustical treatment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCSAsdpByow


Precisely. Although those aren't normal walls.

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echosystm
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quote:
Originally posted by Stealth
I don't see any acoustical treatment...


Every single wall in that room IS acoustic treatment. When was the last time you saw material on a normal wall? lol...

From the look of the door, it might even be a floating room.

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echosystm
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Originally posted by Alphadelta
So I wonder how I can improve my room acoustics? I've never really taken acoustics 'too' seriously, simply because I'm still learning all the time, but I'd love it if someone had a look at the two walls (pictured) and tell me if any foam would benefit me? It is a big room (approx 7m x 6m) so I'm tucked into this corner, so if there are any words of wisdom here, consider that!

I'm at a stage now where I'd like to think I can try and compensate 'ok' where my acoustics are lacking... My KRK's are great sounding monitors to me, at least.



Your speakers are far to wide apart. They should form an equilateral triangle with the listening position, with all sides being roughly 90-120cm. That is the usual nearfield range.

You should never have your speakers that close to a corner either, as corners collect bass. Likewise, they should be at least 30-40cm away from the wall.

You should also have your speakers infront of the window, so they are firing away from it. This is safe to do because your speakers are front ported. I would say having a window on one side of the room would mess up the response quite a bit. Make sure there's at least ~50cm or more between the window and the back of your speakers though.

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Zild
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156

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Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
alright, i mean i do have the cash, was just wondering if the difference was good enough to go to G/C and use foamtak and ruin my walls and paste the foam. Thanks


GIK acoustics makes some really class looking treatment solutions. But like others said it isn't worth it unless you have real monitors not entry level like KRKs. The next thing I'm doing before buying any more instruments/fx/ect is spending at least the cash to put bass traps in the corners here.


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Alphadelta
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Originally posted by echosystm
Your speakers are far to wide apart. They should form an equilateral triangle with the listening position, with all sides being roughly 90-120cm. That is the usual nearfield range.

You should never have your speakers that close to a corner either, as corners collect bass. Likewise, they should be at least 30-40cm away from the wall.

You should also have your speakers infront of the window, so they are firing away from it. This is safe to do because your speakers are front ported. I would say having a window on one side of the room would mess up the response quite a bit. Make sure there's at least ~50cm or more between the window and the back of your speakers though.


Thanks a lot for that advice mate. I did consider the equilateral triangle when setting up - the desk is pretty wide - so when I rearrange my room later I'll sit them behind my desk slightly. I've accepted my situation/location (and budget) is never going to be ideal so little changes like this I'm sure will be useful.

@Zild - In terms of foam there's not much point? You mention the KRK's in your post so I assume I'd be wasting my time with it considering the monitors?

Cheers,

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Zild
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You aren't going to go and blow $1000 to treat your room with traps, diffusers, absorbers, etc if you're running $300 monitors is my reasoning.


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Alphadelta
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You're absolutely right - I'm not doing that. I was just wondering if a bit of foam may help a bit for this room..... But maybe just "a bit of foam" as I put it, is totally pointless anyway - regardless of how expensive the monitors?

Cheers,

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