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Originally posted by RichieV You can even just use the midi parsing from stylus and apply that to tracks.

Is a midi parsing like a groove template?

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

really depends on the track, and the patch i'm workin with..

for example i like my bass extremely tight, but pads and strings and whatnot can be a bit looser, and sometimes sound better that way too imo...
depends on genres and things as well, those "dirty" tunes often sound good with a bit of a 'missed' note here and there cause it sounds live etc, while the more over-produced trancey stuff will often sound horrible if anything is out...

as with most things... whatever sounds good...

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Originally posted by RichieV People spend so much time on the dumbest things. I remember the supersaw threads 2 years ago. The kick drum threads were almost as annoying. Is it really that hard to do ? I just don't get the obsession with things that are so rudimentary.

Heh heh. Would you expect anything less from this forum?

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I interpreted it the other way - listen to enough low-quality garbage (and most trance - no, most EDM in general is of that quality), and you cease to notice its obvious deficiencies. I'm pretty sure he was saying that you have listened to a lot of shit, and have lowered your standards as a result.

I see, so based on your post he is basically stating his standards are better than mine because i like some tracks that have no groove/shuffle manipulation even though some of the greatest trance tracks of all time didn't have any.


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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by Nightshift I see, so based on your post he is basically stating his standards are better than mine because i like some tracks that have no groove/shuffle manipulation even though some of the greatest trance tracks of all time didn't have any.

Why did you reply to the same post twice... 2½ hours apart?

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Originally posted by DigiNut Why did you reply to the same post twice... 2½ hours apart?

u mad?

i did it for the lulz, john, the lulz

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by Nightshift Well according to your statement then I guess my standards are pretty high and I still say not all tracks need groove & shuffle manipulations to be good. thats just as bad as saying all trance tracks need a supersaw to be good. I'm juss sayin this post was completely ridiculous: oh the irony.

unless they changed the definition of irony last night, I really don't get what is so ironic. If that seems rediculous to you, it is because you think music is production. I feel really sorry for those with their head in the sand that are missing out on so many things because they have horse blinders on.

----There are some studies done by Huron that show that people , lets just say dim witted, experience a rewarding feeling listening to the same music because their expectations are always fulfilled and each song is really pseudo individualization. Others enjoy something new that although physiologically presents a negative reactive is overcome by the joyfull act of using your brain. ---

my original post was a light hearted sideswipe with the phenomenon of people getting so stuck into genres and because every style has their ebb and flow of quality, they just end up listening to alot of shit for alot of years. This is probably common to most people that feel attached to a particular genre because they identify with it as a person. It usually doesn't have too much to do with actual music.

I don't want to get into a discussion about aesthetics and what Kant has to say but you will be a better producer if you stop trying to be a trance producer. Learn the most salient things from each style of music you like. That is how you develop style. LIstening to only trance is how you become so oblivious of other musical devices that are , well always an opinion, alot more interesting and challenging.

^ Excellent post.

If you read interviews with a lot of brilliant producers who are asked about their influences, they will almost never list only artists within their own genre. In fact often the influences are things you would not expect and that do not sound much like the artist being interviewed, because they have learned to appreciate great music wherever it appears and do not limit their listening to just one or two genres. As a result their own music is not limited to just emulating the style and sound of other artists within the genre(s) they want to make.

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Originally posted by RichieV I don't want to get into a discussion about aesthetics and what Kant has to say but you will be a better producer if you stop trying to be a trance producer. Learn the most salient things from each style of music you like. That is how you develop style. LIstening to only trance is how you become so oblivious of other musical devices that are , well always an opinion, alot more interesting and challenging.

Amen to that.

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Originally posted by RichieV unless they changed the definition of irony last night, I really don't get what is so ironic. If that seems rediculous to you, it is because you think music is production. I feel really sorry for those with their head in the sand that are missing out on so many things because they have horse blinders on. ----There are some studies done by Huron that show that people , lets just say dim witted, experience a rewarding feeling listening to the same music because their expectations are always fulfilled and each song is really pseudo individualization. Others enjoy something new that although physiologically presents a negative reactive is overcome by the joyfull act of using your brain. --- my original post was a light hearted sideswipe with the phenomenon of people getting so stuck into genres and because every style has their ebb and flow of quality, they just end up listening to alot of shit for alot of years. This is probably common to most people that feel attached to a particular genre because they identify with it as a person. It usually doesn't have too much to do with actual music. I don't want to get into a discussion about aesthetics and what Kant has to say but you will be a better producer if you stop trying to be a trance producer. Learn the most salient things from each style of music you like. That is how you develop style. LIstening to only trance is how you become so oblivious of other musical devices that are , well always an opinion, alot more interesting and challenging.

Yeah, so...

How do I make that supersaw sound from Airwave?

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Originally posted by Beatflux Yeah, so... How do I make that supersaw sound from Airwave?

Big lulz

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Processing a highly structured and complex pattern of sensory input as a unified percept of "music" is probably one of the most elaborate features of the human brain.....understanding how music is perceived and how it may elicit intense sensations is far from being understood.

I agree with Richie v I recently started learning to play piano and as a result have been playing along to pop songs etc and I have now started getting more creative with chords etc instead of just a chord a bar for 4 bars and repeat you know like in a lot of trance..

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