People complaining about trance not focusing on percussion is completely asinine. Most producers don't focus on the perucssion because most listeners give it the same attention. As long as it serves as a formation for the bassline, the hooks, the overall sound, then there's no reason to go further than that. Though plenty producers still do.

And yeah, trance is, IMO, better than it's ever been. The sound's changed for the most part but it's up to personal opinion as to whether or not it's better or worse, but musically trance has been doing some amazing things if you look beyond ASOT or the top 100 garbage.

Also, Oceanlab is the only vocal trance you'll need.

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Originally posted by Kysora People complaining about trance not focusing on percussion is completely asinine. Most producers don't focus on the perucssion because most listeners give it the same attention. As long as it serves as a formation for the bassline, the hooks, the overall sound, then there's no reason to go further than that. Though plenty producers still do. And yeah, trance is, IMO, better than it's ever been. The sound's changed for the most part but it's up to personal opinion as to whether or not it's better or worse, but musically trance has been doing some amazing things if you look beyond ASOT or the top 100 garbage. Also, Oceanlab is the only vocal trance you'll need.

^^THIS GUY knows whats up.

p.s. GDJB > ASOT all day every day.

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

Vocals are one thing trance does not need more of.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi welcome to the club

Thank you. Where's my damn welcome basket?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles So is there an era of trance you do like, or are your tastes simply moving away from all trance entirely? I would not call simple repetitive melodies a flaw, since trance is all about hypnotizing the listeners -- which is why it is called "trance" after all -- and making them dance.

Entirely.

I don't mind simple melodies or even repeated melodies. But when you have both, it's quantized and the timbre is sterile it adds up to be a very boring experience.

The essence of any kind of trance inducing music is slow subtle changes. Maybe it's an accent change that totally changes the rhythm of the melody, but it's the same melody. That example is much more subtle than most changes in modern trance that are additions.

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Originally posted by owien well this topic kinda brings me to my point in dj robby thred last week about people making there own shit rather then using the same tired sounds.

It's sad that it's come down to varying timbres than any other sort of musical aspect.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

Agreed, vocals can only do so much for a track, most producers make the song around them an afterthought and you get stuck with nothing but a basic bassline or chord progression that, on its own, would be completely uninteresting.

Big Sky is still a guilty pleasure of mine, though

lol Big Sky, heard SVD play that song live and still wasnt impressed


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3Dx_zEyXaA

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by Kysora Big Sky is still a guilty pleasure of mine, though

Why should you feel guilty about it? Because everyone thinks it's cheese?

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

problem with monotonic, repeatative music made on computers is that it has no personality. if u repeat a loop over and over again on a hardware sampler ull start to hear the machines inner ghosts, but that just dont happen with software, its just the same synthetic sound without any change, on hardware it changes with temperature, how long it has been on with power and at what volume it is played on.

Digital hardware is not going to change sound unless it actually starts breaking. It is 1s and 0s just like any computer.

lol and hardware vs software is just around the bend...once again...

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

Simon Berry would disagree:

Union Jack - Papillon

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Digital hardware is not going to change sound unless it actually starts breaking. It is 1s and 0s just like any computer.

not true, take the AKAI S1000, a digital sampler which is known for its inner various ghosts making loops more alive and never boring.