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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Folks, I am not saying good music wont sound good on studio monitors, of course it will. But the fatigue on the ears is different. High end frequencies are often much better represented on studio monitors and over time will cause your ears to get tired much quicker meaning that your ability to EQ will suffer and even lead to over compensation on the high stuff. When you are producing you need to take breaks on a regular basis just to reset the balance. Agreed, of course studio monitors are going to be more accurate but regular speakers are less of an effort on the ears. Nem

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Originally posted by Tony Morello regular speakers color the sound to make it more enjoyable and less fatiguing on the ears the accuracy across the full spectrum including the high end is what nem was talking about when saying they'll sound too harsh to a lot of people

I believe it's the opposite. High end studio monitors actually fatigue your ears less. If I play a set for 2 hours on regular speakers or something like PA systems for clubs, and then play the same set on my Dynaudios, which one makes my ears more fatigued? The first ones. The Dyns are designed to provide a flat response which doesn't affect your ears drastically in the long run, at least that's been my experience

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Originally posted by Fledz I believe it's the opposite. High end studio monitors actually fatigue your ears less. If I play a set for 2 hours on regular speakers or something like PA systems for clubs, and then play the same set on my Dynaudios, which one makes my ears more fatigued? The first ones. The Dyns are designed to provide a flat response which doesn't affect your ears drastically in the long run, at least that's been my experience

No, Nem is correct.

I was very surprised by his response and went and asked a client of mine who runs a sound studio. She confirmed that high frequencies fatigue your ear more quickly that lower tones.

In addition to this, it makes sense that a monitor with a greater frequency range would be punishing your ear in a multitude of ways, as opposed to the simpler PA speaker which gives your ears a rest on the frequencies it doesn't reproduce. Then again, these things tend to be counter-intuitive.

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This thread has a lot of misinformation.

Firstly, Hifi speakers do not have less of a spread than studio monitors - just not a flat representation of the frequency spectum.

Yes, extended hi frequency exposure can cause listening fatigue but that doesn't mean you won't get fatigue from hifi speakers, as moany other factors come in to play.

*some* hifi speakers (amongst other things) roll off the extreme hi's to limit listening fatigue and they are specifically coloured to sound pleasureable, rather than accurate so to a very small degree you can (subjectively) listen to them for longer without faigue but this really is minimal and should not ever be considered as a tangible benefit when making a decision of which type to buy.

Moreover, studio monitors are designed to give a flat frequency response so as not to accentuate any part of the spectrum which means if you get fatigue from them, they either don't suit you, are not very good at being balanced or the source material is the cause (badly mixed/low quality etc.).

PA speakers will "not give your ears a rest" for several reasons, the main one being they are going to be a damn sight louder than a Hifi or studio monitor in nearly all cases and they don't selectively reproduce only certain frequencies or a lesser range (unless they are just mid range or a sub or a horn). PA speakers are just loud speakers deisnged to reproduce the sound at high SPl's so to imply they have a lesser or simpler range is false.

all things considered, good studio monitors will fatigue your ears less not more becuase, assuming the source material is good, you should not have too much of any frequency, including hi's that cuase fatigue, and the more your brain and ears are trained the more this statement is true.

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Agreed, of course studio monitors are going to be more accurate but regular speakers are less of an effort on the ears. Nem

but I enjoy listening to music on studio (or near-studio) monitors as opposed to big farting PA speakers like JBL etc. PAs are all about high volumes and a lot of muddy mid-range. on most PAs you will not hear crystal hi-hats or smooth pumping bass (imho)