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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J That's where all Dad Rockers end up, and an increasing number of young people fast-track to.

Why do you think this is happening?

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Originally posted by stevö I'm in Group C ... Someone who was in Group A, evolved to supposedly better music in Group B, and then realized Group B's music is actually a bunch of crap disguised as good music and went back to Group A. But then remembered why I left Group A to begin with, so Group C is a "looking for something good regardless of what group its supposed to be in" type group.

Going by that logic, I'm Group D. Started at A and hated B, then understood why people like B but continued to like A as well as B, also eventually learned to enjoy C too. Why limit yourself?

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Hehe, I could be in a group E - people who can't enjoy even good music they've already discovered because they are in a constant and neverending search for something even they can't explain. Basically those assholes who listen to a certain piece of music only once and never come back to it no matter how good it was. Pretty fucked up group.

David I just got around to reading your original post. Good read, I enjoyed it

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Originally posted by sljiva Hehe, I could be in a group E - people who can't enjoy even good music they've already discovered because they are in a constant and neverending search for something even they can't explain. Basically those assholes who listen to a certain piece of music only once and never come back to it no matter how good it was. Pretty fucked up group.

Eternally dissatisfied.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J No, I'm talking about guys like Nostalgic here. They don't want things to sound original, they want things to sound more like they used to, because things used to be better. That's where all Dad Rockers end up, and an increasing number of young people fast-track to. I find it strange how many 20-somethings are incredibly jaded about modern life, in the time they should be enjoying it the most. They've barely been out of the womb five minutes and they're already getting nostalgic about the placenta.

J,

The discogs Electronic Music Discussion forum has a lot of these types. The extensive knowledge those guys have of 80's and 90's EDM commands respect, but at the same time I feel they are encapsulated in this time period with no chance of leaving. The only new releases they like are the ones that sound like they were made 20 years ago.

I really hope that doesnt happen to me. I want to keep looking and searching and discovering.

Don't You guys think this is more about what kind of trance your into?
As today there are so meny genres.

But I think over time the style you spin will change.

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hipsters are trance crackers by another name

I've always seen these two sides in the EDM industry. Sadly enough, most people never leave group A.

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Originally posted by shaminii I've always seen these two sides in the EDM industry. Sadly enough, most people never leave group A.

Actually, a lot of them do leave, usually when they leave the scene altogether. Not many folks last past the 5-year mark listening to only the exact same thing. That's when a new generation of Group As emerges, thus keeping the cycle going.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Why do you think this is happening?

I'm quite drunk, so bear with my delivery of this point, but...

I was discussing this with the good ship Sykonee earlier, and my theory was basically that we live in an increasing post-modern society, where irony and self-awareness are built into our attitudes, and modern culture is increasingly built out of references to the past. Furthermore, we live in an era where satellite television, the Internet and the "global village" allow young people to see a simulacrum of the wider world at a younger and younger age, which in turns breeds a cynicism towards that world. Kids today are immersed in the adult world earlier and earlier, and they've seen it all by the time they're 18, or at least an edited 24 hour news update of it all.

Basically, what I'm rambling towards is a collective loss of innocence. There is no such thing as a sheltered life anymore, and our childhoods have been plugged into the collective consciousness at a frighteningly young age. Nostalgia normally takes 30-40 years of in-the-moment existence to accumulate. Now, people are so bombarded with information that they're ready to look back at an idealised past by the age of 18.

And that is important. The dislocation of our spirituality to an idealised past is false. Listen to me: Detroit techno, the TB-303 and that terrible 808 cowbell are not something to be yearned for. You're missing the point. They were all part of a futurist movement, an optimistic move towards a utopian destination for mankind, facilitated by the machine.

I know I'm sounding more and more like nefardec every sentence I type, but set aside my personal bias and feel the ideology. Hardware synths and vintage electronic music was about the future. We're living in that future. To idealise hardware is to betray the very point it existed for. As soon as dance music looked back with glistening eyes at Detroit, Chicago and the Second Summer Of Love we destroyed everything those people sequenced and programmed for, just as bands like Oasis destroy the rebellious spirit of rock by adhering to "good time, old fashioned rock 'n roll values". Idealising hardware is a betrayal. If Phuture were dead, they would want you to dance on their collective grave.

We're living in a generation with no identity, a generation that romanticises and idealises a spiritual past that existed only inside our collective imagination. We're at risk of never living, of only yearning for a falsified era of existence we could never grasp, and wasting away in that eternally futile venture.

Fuck that. Our future is being written right now, and the very least I can do is drunkenly call us to arms.

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