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woscar
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c'mon woscar!!!


LOL, I didn't want the French to go through. They have made it a custom of making it to the final stages while playing absolutely horrible football.


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Lebezniatnikov
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Eh, there are worse teams - I'd rather watch France than Italy.


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Moongoose
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Eh, there are worse teams - I'd rather watch France than Italy.


That, if France and Ireland dont go to war over the goal and if Medvedev doesnt call in an airstrike on us, this may end up being quite a fun world cup


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i believe this belongs here


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i believe this belongs here


This one too...


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Cheatin' bastards.


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woscar
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David Prentice: Football must act to cheats never prosper

IF Thierry the talisman for fair play can cheat, the game is surely up. It’s time to pull down the shutters, cash in the Sky subscription and send back the season ticket, for nothing now can ever come to any good.

The French forward was one of the game’s good guys.

He plays with a smile on his face. He has never been tarnished by allegations of diving. In 2008 a survey voted him the favourite Premier League player of all-time.

But in Paris on Wednesday night that reputation was sullied, because he fell victim to the culture which still blames match officials, not players, for their actions.

Watching Henry apologetically try to explain his handball to Richard Dunne afterwards left a hollow sensation in my stomach.

Dunne was distraught, he looked every inch a man who’d seen possibly his last World Cup finals chance cruelly torn away from him.

But ultimately he turned and patted his opponent, as if to exonerate him for his actions.

Dunne let Henry off the hook. And he wasn’t alone.

Kevin Kilbane raged: “You can’t blame Henry. But it’s a disgrace the officials didn’t see it.”

Well I’m sorry Kevin. It was perfectly understandable why the match officials didn’t see the offence.

But you can, most definitely, blame Thierry Henry.

He handled the ball once, perhaps unwittingly. Then he did it again, consciously, to manoeuvre the ball towards his right foot.

It’s time the players were held accountable for their actions.

If the game’s bosses steadfastly refuse to embrace new technology – and 23 years have passed since the Hand of God goal with no obvious change in the way the game is refereed – we must look elsewhere.

The extra goal-line officials employed in Europa League football is a step in the right direction.

A touchjudge would surely have spotted Henry’s transgression.

But there’s another route which can be explored.

And Giovanni Trapattoni unconsciously gave us the answer during his grief stricken post-match analysis.

“I am so sad, but not for France. I am upset for fairplay. I am sad because the referee could have asked his linesman and Henry also,” he said.

“I am sure he could have asked Henry to confirm, but it was not done. I’m sure if he would have asked Henry, he would admit it.”

Simple. Ask the players whether they have handled, dived or deliberately shoved a striker to the floor.

Harry Redknapp made the same suggestion after the David Ngog dive and it’s not as naive as it sounds.

If an official asks a player whether he has transgressed, and video evidence later shows he was lying, he can be retrospectively punished.

But chances are he would tell the truth.

Players do it in training sessions every day of their working lives.

Players cheat instinctively. But it takes a pre-meditated decision to answer a question from a match official.

Players will willingly run the risk of trying to con a referee in play, because it’s the referee who usually gets the blame for failing to spot the deception.

But if it’s the footballer whose reputation would be permanently damaged, he may think twice.

Create a culture where honesty is expected of a footballer, rather than cheating, and you will get players behaving more honestly.

There is a footballing precedent.

A legion of MPs winced and waited for anarchy to descend when Justice Taylor recommended that fences be torn down at football stadia and football fans be treated as customers rather than cattle.

Fans’ behaviour improved dramatically almost overnight.

Surely it has to be worth a try, because today’s children – tomorrow’s Premier League players – are being brought up in an environment that tells them cheating is okay.

And that’s the most depressing sensation of all.


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Dublin Guy
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Registered: Oct 2001
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Just got back home from Paris last night and its heartbreaking reading through this thread. Dunno how Dunne didnt level Henry after the game instead of hugging him.Met loads of lads over there some had walked from the airport to the stadium coz they hadnt enough money,heads been wrecked its massive news over here,Henry is a tosser imo & so is roy keane the wanker him and stephen ireland - ****s.

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winston
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Il faut battre le fer pendant qu'il est chaud.


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generic
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fucking frogs
hope they crash in the group stage, again

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bas
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fucking frogs
hope they crash in the group stage, again

With Domenech in charge they won't go far, that guy is an idiot.


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