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Originally posted by Orko Well they are a huge burden on the health care system. Maybe this is the government's way of showing them the door?

I've always said we should be thrown in the tar pits when we turn 70....it would save the health care system a lot of money.

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Chaos on the Yonge line, ahha. They want more for this?

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Subway shut down from Eglinton to Bloor Commuter chaos has gripped the Yonge subway line after a contractor caused tunnel damage, closing the busiest line between Bloor and Eglinton stations at the busiest time of day. Hundreds, perhaps thousands of people are lined up at Bloor and Yonge Sts., waiting for shuttle buses that can't keep up with the flood of people spilling out of Bloor station. When one of the 50 shuttle buses does leave, it plunges into heavy Yonge St. traffic, extending the commute for many by potentially hours. The disruption is affecting as many as 300,000 commuters, with no service at the Davisville, St. Clair, Summerhill and Rosedale stations. Bus stops along the closed route are all packed with people and the sidewalks are crowded with commuters who decided to walk. TTC spokesperson Brad Ross told reporters just before 5 p.m. that buses are being pulled off other routes to act as shuttles up and down Yonge St., but commuters should think of other options. He noted a bus can hold about 60 people compared to a subway train holding 1,600. "You can't rely on (the shuttles) if you really need to get somewhere. You'll have to find alternatives," he said. The section of the line is expected to remain closed overnight and possibly into the morning rush hour. The disruption comes one day after city councillors hiked fares effective in the New Year, fuelling anger among those left stranded and waiting for shuttle buses. Sam O'Connor, after waiting in a crowd for about a half-hour, hoping to get a shuttle bus north from Bloor to Sheppard station, fumed: "I don't feel good about the TTC. The service is not getting better. "We've got to pay $3 (starting Jan. 3) and take a shuttle? I'm not happy." A 71-year-old pedestrian was struck and seriously injured at Yonge and Eglinton during the rush hour, causing further traffic delays. Hamid Ghaemi, heading home to Richmond Hill from his job at Ryerson University, said he has been taking the TTC to Yonge and Finch Ave., for 23 years. "Get (TTC chair) Adam Giambrone to quit," Ghaemi said. "This is absolutely ridiculous. There are daily breakdowns, daily delays ... All I've seen is more riders and less efficient service." Phil Clerk, 54, got on the subway at St. George station, travelled down to Union, and later went north intending to go to a doctor's appointment near Davisville station. At no point did he hear any announcement about a disruption until he was kicked off at Bloor, he said, adding he was cancelling the doctor's appointment and walking home to Bloor and Spadina Ave. "I'm already late. I was thinking of walking but it's what, a 30 or 40 minute walk? My doctor's office will be closed," he said. The TTC was suggesting as subway alternatives the 512 St. Clair streetcar from St. Clair Station to St. Clair West Station and the 32 Eglinton West bus from Eglinton Station to Eglinton West Station. Aludia Philp, who lives at Nielson Rd. and Finch Ave. in Scarborough, is regretting her decision to take the TTC downtown to fight a parking ticket instead of driving. "How am I going to get home now? It's a long, long way?" Dale Blackwood had to cancel a meeting at Sheppard Centre. "I'm not going — there's no way. This is crazy. It's ridiculous." Tonya Malcolm, a downtown office worker who normally has a 90-minute commute to Finch station and then a bus to Markham Rd. in Scarborough, couldn't guess when she'll get home faces a much longer ride home tonight. After waiting 15 minutes at Yonge and Bloor, watching a shuttle bus on the south side that haven't moved. "This really sucks. Can you imagine raising the fare to $3 for this?," she said. At St. Clair station, Anthony Clayton, 27, and Brett Strong, 26, both students at the nearby National Institute of Broadcasting, were stranded outside their classroom. They watched as packed shuttle buses zoomed by every minute or so, too full to pick up more than a few passengers at a time. "I'm considering strapping myself to the top of one of those buses so I can get to Finch," Clayton said. When told the problem may keep the subway shut through Thursday morning, Clayton and Strong both sighed. "I guess I'll try to find a ride somehow," Strong said. "I'll have to ride my bike," Clayton said. "But that's a long way." Jessica Martin a communications adviser for the TTC, said earlier this afternoon: "We are sending our TTC engineers to look at the situation and once they determine it is safe we will resume service." The damage to the tunnel was done from above, by a contractor not working for the TTC who was doing work on Jackes Ave., south of St. Clair station and just east of Yonge St.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/art...-until-tomorrow

THe one commuter's comments about there not being announcements are not true. I was on the subway around 330 and clearly heard announcements about shuttles.

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Originally posted by Orko Chaos on the Yonge line, ahha. They want more for this? http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/art...-until-tomorrow

Ummm...the line was shut down because of a third party contractor that was digging around the roadside that potentially could have damaged the tunnel. Not sure how that's the TTC's fault.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 its about as confusing to me as to why people keep voting in left wing socialist unionist governments that allow this?

because a righ wing gov't the fares will increase even more. Because a right wing mentality will be why should we subsidize poor people who can't afford a car? why am i subsidizing people on the TTC when i dont take it? who cares about poor people.

That's why.

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Originally posted by gilboman because a righ wing gov't the fares will increase even more. Because a right wing mentality will be why should we subsidize poor people who can't afford a car? why am i subsidizing people on the TTC when i dont take it? who cares about poor people. That's why.

actually... a right wing government would probably have more money to spend on infrastructure as they typically dont fund arts, gun registries and other non essentials. They also arent as friendly to unions and tend to keep their pay more in line thus lowering costs.

The problem isnt so much a funding problem with the TTC as it is a spending problem.

Why is the TTC crying poor and then shelling out a billion dollars on new street cars that no one needs?

Why is the TTC crying poor and spending $100 million on a st clair right of way that no one wants and will only save 2 mins on a commute if that?

Why is the TTC crying poor and paying 100,000 dollars a year to fare collectors when a machine could do their job?

and on and on and on.

PS you do realize the federal conservatives handed over a huge chunk of change to the TTC over the last few years right? And then they turn around and give the TTC workers a 9% raise over 3 years (if i remember correctly)

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Originally posted by Skipper Ummm...the line was shut down because of a third party contractor that was digging around the roadside that potentially could have damaged the tunnel. Not sure how that's the TTC's fault.

it's the socialist left wing liberal's fault.

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I only take the TTC if absolutely necessary and today, as I was eagerly trying to make it to an appointment and was stuck taking a bus between the shut down stations of Yonge and Eglinton, I remembered why. I would probably use the TTC more often even after the fare hike if it meant more reliable service...but I'm pretty sure that this is unlikely.

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Originally posted by chinamon fuck public transit. i own a car.

Yep. Had enough and went out and bought one myself.

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so looks like they are deliberately withholidng the tockens - all stations I passed through today has "sold out" signs
wtf?!
anyone knows where they still sell 5 tockens at least?

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I'd rather pay the money to be on the TTC then sit in the shity traffic Toronto has EVERYDAY.