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Originally posted by Beatflux Translate please.

selling to djs is like selling plus size clothing in japan. Just think about that for a second.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Here you go: ｉ\がこれがそれほど多くの時しかしもう一度プロデューサーが djs に（彼・それ）らの歌を向けることを止めます、彼ら習慣\」まで生産高から金を作っていると言いました。

haha in other words theres no money in making tracks for dj's and clubland

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think about how many normal people enjoy listening to a track with 32 bars of nothing. If you want to sell, then start thinking in commercial terms. Stop aiming your music to a small elite group of users to the entire music buying populace.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles The death of vinyl has little to do with file-sharing. It would have died anyway even if everyone bought only legal MP3s and WAVs, since digital files are much, much cheaper to buy and distribute, and also more convenient: you hardly ever have to buy an entire release just to get the one or two tracks you like, you never have to lug around a box of records, you never have to visit a physical store or wait on shipping, and so on.

ure missing the point... music going digital has ruined dance music. if you got a tune signed u had a physical record that you could frame and put on wall. You could argue this all day week year...its all personal opinion... i honestly like record shoppping....i mean a good record shop knew the good tunes... they started to know what u liked and told you artists that were up and coming etc... what u got now???? yeah you got beatport for example with 10 000 tunes but 90% is poor average tunes.

But to get to the orginal thread... there is money to be made but you have to do something fresh... the problem is alot of producers just make music that sounds the same as the music they like. It about learning from the producer you like then improving on it... dance music can be sooo much better than it has ever been....but it takes vision.... thinkin outside the box..... this is something very few people can do.


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true but remember you have to make and play what people want end off.

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Originally posted by RichieV think about how many normal people enjoy listening to a track with 32 bars of nothing. If you want to sell, then start thinking in commercial terms. Stop aiming your music to a small elite group of users to the entire music buying populace.

so basicially sell ure soul like tiesto....pvd and avb. THE THING IS 80% OF PEOPLE DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY LIKE... they rely on the likes of hmv to tell them what they should be listening to....

this was a thread about economics, not artistry.

So basically, you guys are all trying to be the electronic music equivalent of teen pop stars?

Better hire a team to do market research, so you know which template to use for your next track.

Why not just get straight to the point and start selling advertising spots in your tracks?

You are in the wrong scene... Produce for love to the music, not for the cash!

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Originally posted by RichieV think about how many normal people enjoy listening to a track with 32 bars of nothing. If you want to sell, then start thinking in commercial terms. Stop aiming your music to a small elite group of users to the entire music buying populace.

Squash tracks down to 3 minutes and put in Hip-hop vocals?

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

IF you want to sell records (i.e., be commercially successful), then, yes, you need to produce what the buying public is willing to purchase. You can't have it both it ways or force the masses to like your "32 beats of nothing" songs, so that leaves you very little in the way of choices:

- continue producing what you want and pride yourself on the fact that you don't compromise, be a starving artist, and participate in as many "how can I make money with my non-commercial music" threads as you can find, or

- compromise (i.e., sell out) and try to make music that a large number of people will purchase.

Neither one is wrong, but obviously you can't have it both ways. Or, maybe your music already has commercial appeal, in which case you don't have to compromise - maybe you just need more effective marketing.

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