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Originally posted by DeleteFromUsers I'd bet on Visa, MasterCard and Amex for this type of service. Seems like a natural for them. They're always in the mix anyway, why not integrate completely?

They are the obvious choices in terms of scale and trust; the rub is the profit margin. At the normal 3% rate they make less than a penny on a 25¢ payment. I'm not sure that their systems are set up for either the minuscule size or massive volume of transactions that such a system would entail. Not that they couldn't do it - I'm sure they could - but there has to be a business case for it, and at the moment they don't seem to be interested.

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Originally posted by DeleteFromUsers Wikipedia gets 330 million unique visitors per month. On a site that I manage we get an average of seven page views per visitor. While I'm sure this number is much higher for wikipedia, that's about two and a half BILLION page requests per month. Just because you don't have to pay for many things on the internet doesn't mean they don't cost anything to create and maintain. They asked for money last year too. Not sure how many times they've done this type of campaign though. I actually donated this year. I use it enough, and I think their revenue model is at least honest. I also believe wikipedia is the single finest resource on the internet and wikipedia's prosperity benefits the entire world (directly or indirectly).

I never said running a website is free nor that I dont like supporting a website.

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Originally posted by TheDemon So I go on Wikipeida today and there's an appeal from the founder. I thought maybe the sight was shutting down. But no, they want people to donate money preserve the site and protect it? Okay. They want $10 million a year. What the hell! and then the founder talks about this so called organization he created in 2003 to preserve Wikipedia. In all these years I have used this site, i have never seen it have issues or ask for money. I mean, yes the site requires fundage to operate, but $10 million a year is absurd. Here is the appeal letter: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki...n&target=Appeal

LOL.

I don't have to bring up the points that the other TA's already pointed out, but it does cost major coin to run a site like that.

Last year they asked/raised $6 million.

Wikipedia is a privilege, not a right. How can you WTF the fact they need revenue to operate?

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Originally posted by Big Boss LOL. I don't have to bring up the points that the other TA's already pointed out, but it does cost major coin to run a site like that. Last year they asked/raised $6 million. Wikipedia is a privilege, not a right. How can you WTF the fact they need revenue to operate?

again, i didn't wtf the fact that it needs money to operate. I was stating my opinion the costs of its operations.

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Originally posted by TheDemon So I go on Wikipeida today and there's an appeal from the founder. I thought maybe the sight was shutting down. But no, they want people to donate money preserve the site and protect it? Okay. They want $10 million a year. What the hell! and then the founder talks about this so called organization he created in 2003 to preserve Wikipedia. In all these years I have used this site, i have never seen it have issues or ask for money. I mean, yes the site requires fundage to operate, but $10 million a year is absurd. Here is the appeal letter: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki...n&target=Appeal

costs money to keep a site that massive online... a lot of money.


and they've always asked for donations.

Sweet, thanks for the notice, I'll donate anytime.

I have donated to many, many websites/projects in the past if I find them useful. If I want to use services, services which improve my life, then they need my contribution.

There's so many crappy sites out there I knew it was only a matter of time before the decent ones would start charging or asking for donations...Wiki does a good job though so I'd pay just to avoid it having to resort to banner advertising/pop ups...

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It's a donation, not a mandatory cost. If you feel so strongly about not giving money to a great site that you probably frequent weekly if not daily, don't donate. The asking of a donation on Wiki isn't new.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 pretty soon most sites will involve some sort of payment. it wont be a lot of money but it will be something. I say good. People need to learn the value of content and creativity again. I think other than sept 11 the other major disaster of the last decade is the devaluation of media forms in our society. (music, movies, tv, radio and now books!)

come on...really?

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Originally posted by MarkT come on...really?

(he's not about making sense)