i'm not saying he doesn't have a right to make money, i'm saying just because he's making a lot of money doesn't mean he's making something that's any good. a lot of confused idiots think the two are directly related. hi tommy! now a lot of people will argue that music is subjective, but what's not subjective is the fact that in large populations there are always more ignorant people than educated, and so you can always be more successful catering to the lowest common denominator using the most formulaic and mediocre sounds in edm. that's why companies like mcdonalds and budweiser are much more successful than their more refined competitors. taste is also subjective, but who of you will argue that mcdonalds makes the best burger and the budweiser makes the best beer just because they are number 1 in gross sales?

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Originally posted by R!CH i'm not saying he doesn't have a right to make money, i'm saying just because he's making a lot of money doesn't mean he's making something that's any good. a lot of confused idiots think the two are directly related. hi tommy! now a lot of people will argue that music is subjective, but what's not subjective is the fact that in large populations there are always more ignorant people than educated, and so you can always be more successful catering to the lowest common denominator using the most formulaic and mediocre sounds in edm. that's why companies like mcdonalds and budweiser are much more successful than their more refined competitors. taste is also subjective, but who of you will argue that mcdonalds makes the best burger and the budweiser makes the best beer just because they are number 1 in gross sales?

Again, the topic of this post was Who are the highest grossing EDM Dj's/Producers? Not, who makes respectable music or any music that's good to your liking.

And with that said, Guetta is making BANK right now. Even if you think his music is cheese, that's a fact. He's milking it!

hasnt gotten bad in here billy....though the potential is there.
any of the dj's youve had to work with brag about all the $ they just made to manipulate music on their laptops?

maybe one of our TA bookers can chime in with some info.

i would think the most highly paid for a gig would include Tiesto, Fat Boy Slim, Prodigy, David Guetta, Eric Morillo, Carl Cox. Not sure what kind of money is being pulled by other angles such as tracks, labels, sponsors, etc.

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Originally posted by DjWoody Again, the topic of this post was Who are the highest grossing EDM Dj's/Producers? Not, who makes respectable music or any music that's good to your liking. And with that said, Guetta is making BANK right now. Even if you think his music is cheese, that's a fact. He's milking it!

Rich is arguing against the statement 'going platinum spells success'. Not all musicians define 'success' as reaching commercial appeal by selling music to the masses...

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when people say a dj gets say 30k for a gig, is that the net amount the dj goes home with? or does the manager/booking agency get a cut, then subtract out the airfare/hotel, etc. I'd like to hear more about the money side of the whole dj scene, from people who have actually seen some contracts or checks.

thx

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Originally posted by DjWoody Again, the topic of this post was Who are the highest grossing EDM Dj's/Producers? Not, who makes respectable music or any music that's good to your liking. And with that said, Guetta is making BANK right now. Even if you think his music is cheese, that's a fact. He's milking it!

Ricardo Villalobos makes bank and plays basically some of the best dance music in the world.

It is possible to be quite successful without selling out, it's just more difficult and requires more work and artistic integrity.

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Originally posted by spinvinyl when people say a dj gets say 30k for a gig, is that the net amount the dj goes home with? or does the manager/booking agency get a cut, then subtract out the airfare/hotel, etc. I'd like to hear more about the money side of the whole dj scene, from people who have actually seen some contracts or checks. thx

It all depends on what you worked out. Artists know how much they wanna go home with. They add booking fees and other expenses on top of that.

For instance, a while back we were gonna book a known trance DJ. His agency was charging us $3000 for him alone. On top of that, they wanted 10% booking fee, hotel, lodging, first/business class airfare for two from Europe (payable to the agency, they will book the flight), and 50% deposit upfront. At the end, those $3000 ended up being closer to $6,000.

Now imagine booking someone like PVD who stays at the 4 Seasons hotel in Beverly Hills everytime he comes to LA. Or even worse, try booking Tiesto who requires his own security detail and sometimes private plane. It gets expensive quick, that's why we pay very high prices in LA.

The same DJ I wanted to book in LA for $3000, could well be worth $1000 in other cities.

Supply and demand has a lot to do with it too.

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Originally posted by DjWoody Again, the topic of this post was Who are the highest grossing EDM Dj's/Producers? Not, who makes respectable music or any music that's good to your liking. And with that said, Guetta is making BANK right now. Even if you think his music is cheese, that's a fact. He's milking it!

AGAIN, i know what the topic of this thread is. bigperf's nebulous observation that "selling out arenas and going platinum spells success in the music industry, so regardless on anyones thoughts on david guetta's music, the man is doing something right" leaves open the implication that the highest grossing djs are doing it right. so before anyone got the wrong idea, i wanted to clarify that what they are doing right is making money. maybe you haven't noticed, but a lot of really dense people use the argument that their music can't possibly be bad because they are making money. if i hadn't clarified that point, every noob lurker reading along would assume tiesto, armin and guetta are what's right in the scene. wrong!

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