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High on PSI
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada

Funny.

Yesterday alone, I had a girl start racing onto the street to catch her streetcar right in front of me when I was making a right onto Queens Quay from Spadina. It wasnt even a right turn on a red, my light was green.

Then no more than a few hours later, some old man was walking across University just north of Bloor, and instead of staying in the middle of the road when he saw me coming, he decided, you know what, not only will i start crossing anyways, ill walk right into your lane and just stay there. Like, WTF?

All when it was dark out... these are casualties just waiting to happen. The speed limit has nothing to do with it.

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Xavier Moriarty
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quote:
Originally posted by malek
..... its just a money making scam.


http://www.kitchener.ca/parking/snow.aspx

"blah blah...so to remind you about snow even we created a TAG AND TOW bylaw...."

nobody has it as bad as we in kw, nobody!!!


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nacarter
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Registered: Dec 2004
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I agree with Jayx on two points, first lowering speed limits will not solve this problem. I'm not too worried about this proposal actually getting to ground, as it will get stuck in a committee through the next election. Second, pedestrians are just as at fault for many of these incidents. Seniors are notorious for jaywalking, and pedestrians in dark colours at night can't complain when drivers can't see them.

That said, there are two habits I've seen from drivers in Toronto that are pedestrian accidents waiting to happen (I'm a runner, I've had more near misses than I can count!). The worst is drivers pulling out of a driveway or parking lot, looking right, looking left (for the next 10 seconds), and then pulling out without looking right again. In the 10 seconds they looked left I walked or ran into the path of the car. When they start to pull out and get startled because I'm right there, my kind response is a solid fist to the hood - WAKE UP!

The second dangerous habit is drivers cruising through stop signs while making right hand turns. I know that this habit has been the direct cause of a couple of the recent accidents. It's a stop sign, it doesn't matter if there isn't anybody there - STOP MOFOs! No Idaho Stops!

Old Post Jan-26-2010 21:39  Canada
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gummybear
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quote:
Originally posted by LKD
you can pull over to the side and answer the call. please do NOT keep your hand busy with holding your phone to your ear. if your bluetooth consistently fails, maybe be as thoughtful of charging your headset as you are with your phone. another option is keeping a wired headset handy in your car (yes. all phones still do have a physical output to do so)


so you have drank the kool aid?

Yes, I answered my phone as I did hundreds and hundreds of times before the ban. I have never hit anyone or come close to it. I'm not gonna feel bad or apologize for doing it after the ban. The only difference between then and now is that the government has passed legislation that is now a substitute for personal accountability. We already had careless driving laws that could have been enforced but of course the nanny state had to make sure we were firmly under their thumb.

So are you judging me cuz I answered my phone or broke the law...just curious

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tvmann
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: near Vancouver, Canada

Frequent pedestrian runovers here on the w. coast too. When it's rainy and dark they are hard to see. Especially when they (we) wear all black!


jaywalker fines next?

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Dark_Archonis
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Wild West, Canada
Re: Knee jerk reaction to Ped deaths coming? Councillor wants 10 kph less speed limit

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1



Toronto... what a joke


Well, you got two things right, points I agree completely on.

First, Toronto is a joke, a big joke at that.

Secondly, the electorate in Toronto is in-fact brain dead. Not *just* the electorate though, most of the residents.

This is just another step along the path of Toronto becoming a police-state, old people town.


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LKD
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quote:
Originally posted by gummybear
so you have drank the kool aid?

Yes, I answered my phone as I did hundreds and hundreds of times before the ban. I have never hit anyone or come close to it. I'm not gonna feel bad or apologize for doing it after the ban. The only difference between then and now is that the government has passed legislation that is now a substitute for personal accountability. We already had careless driving laws that could have been enforced but of course the nanny state had to make sure we were firmly under their thumb.

So are you judging me cuz I answered my phone or broke the law...just curious


I'm just saying "PUT THE PHONE DOWN AND CONCENTRATE ON DRIVING".

And that's not to just you but EVERYONE.


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LKD
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hang on a second...i forgot to add "USE THE SPEAKERPHONE OPTION ON YOUR PHONE IF YOUR BLUETOOTH FAILS AND YOU DON'T HAVE A WIRED HEADSET"


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FunkyCrew
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quote:
Originally posted by LKD
hang on a second...i forgot to add "USE THE SPEAKERPHONE OPTION ON YOUR PHONE IF YOUR BLUETOOTH FAILS AND YOU DON'T HAVE A WIRED HEADSET"


my roommate refuses to use neither the hands-free nor the bluetooth - she just continues to talk on the phone while driving, even between the cities on the highway, so silly!


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quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
my roommate refuses to use neither the hands-free nor the bluetooth - she just continues to talk on the phone while driving, even between the cities on the highway, so silly!


A lot of people just dont give a shit.

I think people are starting to suffer from ban fatigue. In other words, they are starting to ignore bans because there are just too many of them. Which essentially is what the government wants. More ban breakers = more revenue and thats what this is really about in the first place.


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LKD
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quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
A lot of people just dont give a shit.

I think people are starting to suffer from ban fatigue. In other words, they are starting to ignore bans because there are just too many of them. Which essentially is what the government wants. More ban breakers = more revenue and thats what this is really about in the first place.


i disagree...imo people just want to be adamant and 'fight the power' for cheap thrills (yea i'm seriously saying that)


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FunkyCrew
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Registered: Feb 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
A lot of people just dont give a shit.


totally
I was like - "well you're the one strongly against drunk driving"
technically, isn't both drunk driving and talking on the phone driving classified as careless driving?
at the end of the day I just want her a. not to get a hefty ticket and b. get home alive


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