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Originally posted by get nyce I only read a small portion to the terms, so it has me thinking "podcast" only as downloadable content where these rules apply. It does set the standard for other labels to enforce similar rules handed down by mastering tracks or signing to a label. I'm not saying I'm promoting the new terms and conditions, I'm just saying I don't find it outrageous for them to impose such standards. There's relevance there and it makes sense, especially with the itunes market and how many active customers use their marketplace for media. It's a large chunk, a chunk that an artist would want a piece of because of the exposure and any business mind sided ventures within it.

I do agree with you on that - I don't think it's wrong of them at all to want to impose restrictions. Just think the restrictions they came up are not in the best interest of either party.

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i dont understand why they cant do something to the effect of what clubs do.

im pretty sure clubs have to pay a yearly fee to ASCAP to cover royalties associated with music spun at the venue. Why wouldnt itunes just pay some sort of fee to a clearing house and charge a little bit for podcasts... i mean, that would suck i guess cause the best part of podcasts is that they're free...

or maybe if you want to have a podcast on itunes you should have to pay some sort of clearinghouse a fee per year, and that fee gets distributed amongst the various labels who have songs in the podcast. something like that. i dunno

i see what getnyce is saying though for sure. and yeah, the bit depth of the podcasts definitely is an issue as far as, do they want their masters being aired or a lower grade or whatever. i dunno. touchy subject.

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Funny that once upon a time, artists who are now signed to Armada probably would not have cared to have had their music passed around for free just so they could get any exposure at all. Now that they have "made it", it all of a sudden is an issue. Just goes to show how ridiculous this move by Armada really is.

This topic reminds me of a great video...

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Funny that once upon a time, artists who are now signed to Armada probably would not have cared to have had their music passed around for free just so they could get any exposure at all. Now that they have "made it", it all of a sudden is an issue. Just goes to show how ridiculous this move by Armada really is.

That's like holding the 20 year old interns at Enron accountable for the things the higher ups in the company did. Armada probably has at least 500 artists over the years, big and small; I bet 490 didn't even know about this before they read about it elsewhere, and I bet maybe 5 whole-heartedly agree with these measures, while the others are either neutral or uninformed (like me)..

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT Funny that once upon a time, artists who are now signed to Armada probably would not have cared to have had their music passed around for free just so they could get any exposure at all. Now that they have "made it", it all of a sudden is an issue. Just goes to show how ridiculous this move by Armada really is.

i'm pretty sure that's the point though, man...

you HAVE to give your shit away for free in the beginning in order to get exposure. who's going to pay for music by someone they've never heard of?

Once you do make it, that's when you CAN charge people money, because you've been established as an artist who releases quality music.

So like.... duh. of course you want to charge money when you make it. Thats WHEN you charge money!! That's the whole point of trying to make it. Or at least one of the goals. I mean shit man... DJs love music and that's all well and good, but niggaz gotta eat, yo.

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Originally posted by The Vza i'm pretty sure that's the point though, man... you HAVE to give your shit away for free in the beginning in order to get exposure. who's going to pay for music by someone they've never heard of? Once you do make it, that's when you CAN charge people money, because you've been established as an artist who releases quality music. So like.... duh. of course you want to charge money when you make it. Thats WHEN you charge money!! That's the whole point of trying to make it. Or at least one of the goals. I mean shit man... DJs love music and that's all well and good, but niggaz gotta eat, yo.

I understand your concern but you missed the point entirely.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco That's like holding the 20 year old interns at Enron accountable for the things the higher ups in the company did. Armada probably has at least 500 artists over the years, big and small; I bet 490 didn't even know about this before they read about it elsewhere, and I bet maybe 5 whole-heartedly agree with these measures, while the others are either neutral or uninformed (like me)..

You are right. I didn't mean for my post to seem directed at everyone over at Armada. It was mainly targeted at those who made this decision for the purpose of trying to "protect" their artists.

When i first got into EDM (although i was completely wrong about this) i respected the scene because i felt that the money came from tours and playing gigs. I felt it was an art form best expressed through live performances. I felt that this was very unlike rap or rock who just cared about sales. I was simply amazed by the amt of free mnusic there was on itunes due to podcasts. Clearly i was wrong and I didn't understand the difference between producers and djs, i assumed they were one and the same.

BUT there is something to be said about this feeling I had. EDM is DANCE music and is all about the experience.

On a similar note, Lil Wayne has been putting out free mixtape after mixtape and yet his cd sales are still through the roof. Just a though I have had.