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DJ Robby Rox
Longterm Newbie

Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Tiestoland
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| quote: | Originally posted by Beatflux
If you're going to make a bassline tut, then make a bass that most people like. |
Samples please.
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Apr-14-2010 08:58
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Beatflux
Rising Star in training

Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Planet Alf
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Apr-14-2010 17:40
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Eric J
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Nov 2006
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| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I'm not sure what you're talking about, would you like me to cite a track? ESPECIALLY on bass sweeps/swells it usually sounds like they are saturated with reverb, and I don't think its decay or release because many times you will hear the predelay from the actual reverb when it triggers. Maybe its not "popular" but I def am hearing it in trance and personally love the way it sounds. I will have to find some tracks def before we continue on this topic..
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Yeah an example would be helpful, but don't worry about it. Its not that important. I'm not really into trance anymore, so it may be something I just haven't heard before or something new they are doing.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
No what I meant is on certain elements (like the acid swell) I would rather have them reverbed so the swell doesn't push the kick down. If the swell is reverbed its usually wide enough so the kick can break through. I do this only on my swells, which is the only bass instrument in this track with reverb on it. Not sure what you mean by "swamping"... 5 out of my 6 bass aren't even going through reverb to begin.
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I'm not entirely certain what you mean here. It sounds like you suggesting that you add reverb to a bass part to increase its stereo width in order to not conflict with a centered kick? Because that's what I am reading from the above.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
No absolutely not. Especially when its the admitted standard for certain very well known pros on this board.
When I say 4-6 layers it usually means 2 layers of 3 bass. In this track the mid bass is 2 layers, a second mid bass is 2 layers, then the acid is 2 layers. And I haven't even added a sub to it yet so go figure.
And absolutely the WHOLE REASON I'm layering is to compensate for "poor sound", but I like to think of it in more optimistic terms, like "striving for a richer sound". Isn't the whole reason we layer in the first place to acheive a better sound? So how is it a bad thing now that I'm doing the same thing about 90% of good producers are (layering).
I'm sure there are some pros out there layering 8-12 sounds just for their basslines. 4-6 to me doesn't really seem like a lot.
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8-12 tracks just for a bassline? With that many tracks i don't see how you'd have room for anything else. But, hey, if that's the route you want to go, who am I to stop you.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I agree, the problem is figuring out what a "right sound" is, or if its just some mythical phrase we throw around these forums when we can't explain how some did something wonderful... "oh.. they must have just used the 'right sounds'".
But I do agree conceptually speaking, just not technically.
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It's definitely not a mythical phrase. There is a definite point at which I know "yeah, that's the sound I want". I guess it's just something you learn with experience. I'm not really sure how I can explain it any better so I won't try.
I dont know, but I just kind of get the impression that you have some strange misconceptions about things that you may or may not have heard on these and other forums. I was just trying to dispel those impressions and maybe help out a bit.
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Apr-14-2010 20:22
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