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Originally posted by Scratchula Maybe I'll get with the times when "Israel" gets with the times and: * Ends the mass oppression of the Palestinian people.

Agreed. But bellicose rhetoric denying the existence of a nation-state recognized by 90% of world isn't going to solve anything.

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* Stops having a government that favors people based on their religious background and grant equal rights to all. * End the "law of return" and stop importing people from abroad in order to maintain a retarded constitutional ideology that's counter to democracy.

If you're for a fair compromise, that surely isn't going to happen.

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Israel for years has been one of the biggest threats to world peace and the main dividing line between the west and the Arab world.

How so? By attacking those who attack them? How is that threatening world peace? If you said North Korea was a threat to world peace, I'd have to agree, but Israel? No.

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin How so? By attacking those who attack them? How is that threatening world peace? If you said North Korea was a threat to world peace, I'd have to agree, but Israel? No.

A large amount of the anti-western and anti-American views expressed by Arabs and Muslims throughout the world is due to US and western support for Israel. It's still technically at war with its neighbors and has made no positive steps towards any form of reconciliation since the murder of Yitzhak Rabin in 1995. In fact, things have gone years backwards with a violent scumbag from Romania named Avigdor Lieberman holding the position of Deputy Prime Minister.

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Originally posted by Scratchula A large amount of the anti-western and anti-American views expressed by Arabs and Muslims throughout the world is due to US and western support for Israel. It's still technically at war with its neighbors and has made no positive steps towards any form of reconciliation since the murder of Yitzhak Rabin in 1995. In fact, things have gone years backwards with a violent scumbag from Romania named Avigdor Lieberman holding the position of Deputy Prime Minister.

Those wouldn't be reasons why Israel alone is a threat to world peace. I would say the whole situation is a threat to world peace. That includes Hezbollah, Hamas, and other militant groups as well as Israel.

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin Those wouldn't be reasons why Israel alone is a threat to world peace. I would say the whole situation is a threat to world peace. That includes Hezbollah, Hamas, and other militant groups as well as Israel.

Yes, the whole situation is definitely a threat to world peace, but Israel is responsible for the situation which spawned all those factions in defense. HAMAS and other Palestinian militant groups are resistance to Israeli oppression. Without the "Jewish State" they wouldn't exist.

I don't support suicide bombings or any form of terrorism against civilians (my people faced enough of it in the 90s), but I do understand why people in Gaza end up joining such groups. The situation there is absolutely dire and there's no future for most young people, especially with the crippling blockade that's been in force since HAMAS were "elected".

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Originally posted by Scratchula Yes, the whole situation is definitely a threat to world peace, but Israel is responsible for the situation which spawned all those factions in defense. HAMAS and other Palestinian militant groups are resistance to Israeli oppression. Without the "Jewish State" they wouldn't exist.

And America was built on the confiscated and conquered lands of millions of native American Indians, but that won't change the fact that America is here to stay. You, as well as Hamas, Hezbollah, and everyone, should accept the fact that while Israel may have been founded on the conquered lands of Palestinians, nothing is going to change the fact that the Israeli state is here to stay, and nothing is going to change. No matter how many rockets and suicide bombers are flung their way, no matter if Egypt, Syria, Jordan all invade Israel at the same time. Accept it and move on.

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I don't support suicide bombings or any form of terrorism against civilians (my people faced enough of it in the 90s), but I do understand why people in Gaza end up joining such groups. The situation there is absolutely dire and there's no future for most young people, especially with the crippling blockade that's been in force since HAMAS were "elected".

I agree with you. But nothing is going to be solved by denying the existence of the Israeli state. It very clearly exists, justly or otherwise.

I just came across this great interview with Stephen Kenzer, and I really believe it is time for the American policy makers to re think the way they are dealing with Iran.

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