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| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
No it is not 'the breaks', current law clearly states that you can copy your purchase. Where does it say it is ok to copy a CD (in the new bill)? |
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| quote: | | Among other changes, the law legitimizes activities that most Canadians already do, such as transferring music from a legally purchased CD to an MP3 player, or recording a television show, which goes against current copyright rules, universally seen as outdated. |
| quote: | | Last time I checked, you have to use a ripper to copy a CD, you cannot copy the files straight off of it, which means, it has been encoded (read encrypted) in such a way, that specifically makes it harder to get your data off the disc. |
you and i both know that you are wrong. Ripping a CD from one format to another is not picking a lock and you know it.
| quote: | | You have only been able to purchase music of 2 years, without it being locked down by DRM, what about all that media you bought before that? Obviously they realised it was wrong to lock down the music, and distributors changed their methods, that should be a your first clue! |
so if the market is taking care of this due to consumer demand then whats the issue? Give the right of the manufacturer to decide what can be done with their product and the consumer the right to buy it or not. If consumer demand warrants, they will not put locks on the product.
| quote: | | How can I get a copy of my movies which I have already purchased (not stolen) for $0.99? Don't jump around in your arguments. It's weak. |
obviously im talking about music here. But even movies, dont tell me you pay the full price online that you would for the actual copy because you dont.
| quote: | | When you buy a movie, music, book now, you are not buying the physical transport medium, you are buying a COPY of that IP. |
agreed hence why its cheaper!
| quote: | | Again, it is not the same as buying a couch. You are not stealing it. Plus, when you download a song, iTunes is not sending you their copy (or inventory of a couch), they are sending you a COPY. Get it? You have paid for the right to consume a copy of that IP. You shouldn't have to pay for it again if you want to listen to that copy on your computer, or mp3 player, or phone, or, or, or... |
why not? again, what if u wanted a cd then a record? Different applications require different copies. Considering the price break you already get for downloading a copy, id say thats very reasonable. If you want full rights you are free to buy the actual cd or an unlocked copy online and copy it onto as mediums as you want which is actually currently illegal. So this actually instills more rights to the consumer.
| quote: | | This is supposed to be an update to the current law, adding provisions which did not yet exist, for scenarios which did not exist at the time of creation of the previous law. This is not supposed to change existing law, and outlaw something a lot of Canadian use as a honest way of protecting their investment. And when they do update said law, they are supposed to query the citizens it effects, not non-voting entities such as corporations. |
again, you are free to buy the physical or unlocked copy under this law and use as you wish. Of course, that will cost more. Or you can buy a locked copy multiple times and pay for that as well. The bootm line here is that it seems like you just dont want to pay fair value.
| quote: | | You are always going on about people's rights, and how the government is taking away too many of them. Well here is a prime example of the government serving the wants of a few which has a detrimental effect on the rights of the many. |
so by giving more rights to the consumer (the ability to make personal copies) and also giving more rights to the creators (protecting their right to sell locked or unlocked copies) this law some how takes peoples rights away? Come again?
| quote: | | And the one part of the law which should actually make you upset, has not. You can in fact continue to download, as long as you are not doing so to distribute. Are you actually still in favour of such an unbalanced new bill? |
Actually if this is true id ask for that to be changed as well. No one should be allowed to make illegal downloads of media.
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| quote: | Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal. |
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