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G-Con
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: England

quote:
Originally posted by Rodri Santos
That it is but i think it can do anything beyond your imagination, well just think that automating an oscillator is not changing the filter, is changing the sound completely, may have some uses for sure.


I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Are you saying that all of Zeta's parameters can be automated? If so, then doesn't this apply to any soft synth?


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cryophonik
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Originally posted by G-Con
I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Are you saying that all of Zeta's parameters can be automated? If so, then doesn't this apply to any soft synth?


I think he's just saying that having the ability to automate changes in the oscillator has a greater effect on the overall sound than automating the filter cutoff does, because you're modulating the source waveform.


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G-Con
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by cryophonik
I think he's just saying that having the ability to automate changes in the oscillator has a greater effect on the overall sound than automating the filter cutoff does, because you're modulating the source waveform. [/QUOTE

His last post which I quoted was a follow up to one he posted a few comments before saying something about why Zeta is such a good synth. Reading both posts together, I understand it that he is saying Zeta is really good because you can automate anything and several things at once. My point is, this can be done on any soft synth (or most anyway)


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maybe Rodri you are referring to the modulation matrix in z3ta rather than "automation" ??


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Yeah, a lot of wavetable synths will let you modulate most parameters, including the waveform itself, but I don't know of any conventional subtractive synths (i.e., having only sine, square, saw, etc. oscillators) that let you modulate or automate the selection of waveforms. I can't really see much practical use for it, unless you had the ability to morph from one waveform to the next, but then you're really talking about wavetable or waveshaping synthesis.

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maybe Rodri you are referring to the modulation matrix in z3ta rather than "automation" ??


I don't think there is really a practical difference in this case, since IIRC Z3TA+ exposes all of its available modulation parameters to the host, so you would set up your modulation sources/destinations in the matrix, but control would/could be done via automation.


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How is Z3TA+ on the CPU? How many voices does it have?

I'm going to pull the trigger if it doesnt use a lot of CPU. One of the reasons I love sylenth so much is that it uses very little CPU (and even less when I turn off its shit FX). It blows my mind the sounds I can get out of sylenth with hardly any processor use.

But back to the topic at hand, how is Z3TA+ on the CPU?

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It depends on how many oscillators you have going and what effects you're using. It can be intensive, but it sounds SOOOOOO good. I had it running with all six oscillators, the Effects enabled, and two more delays in a project with about twenty+ instantiations of different synths and FX, and banked it to a whopping 78% CPU usage. I killed one of the track FX's and then three of the oscillators, and the on-board FX, and the CPU usage dropped down to a tidy 30-32% at the song's peak on an Intel Core2 Quad 266GhZ with 8GB RAM on a 64-bit OS.


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Z3ta is a bit taxing on the CPU, but you can set the thing to draft mode (I think it's called) during the production stage, and then set it to normal mode on export to save some processing power.. also it's a very powerful synth, one of the best soft synths imo!


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Well played.

Also, on point about the draft mode - which I don't pay too much attention to unless I'm desperate for CPU.


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z3ta is great for those really plucky sharp sounds, very cutting. It can also do some really mean deep bass


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Rodri Santos
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eh i don't know any synth that can do this, there must be others though. It's not only the modulation matrix.

Read this to get more info abut this vst:

http://emusician.com/mag/emusic_cakewalk_zta_win/

You see it here:

The modulation matrix, which allows as many as 16 routings, is powerful. One of its inputs is an X-Y Pad (see Fig. 2), which can be controlled using the mouse. Well-implemented real-time MIDI control gives you external access to some important parameters that aren't available in the modulation matrix. There's also an arpeggiator with 150 preprogrammed rhythms.

It's difficult to explain this but it's a good vst, about the cpu usage i think is a bit demanding thats true, having more than 20 different patterns playing at the same time if you include some z3ta exhaust even the fastest processors.

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