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Originally posted by Eric J Again, like I said you need to ensure that different sounds are not overlapping in certain frequency bands. For example, it your kick's fundamental is a ~80Hz, and your bass also has a fundamental at ~80Hz, then you need to cut one of them, so they do not overlap. This is creating space in the mix. /[/URL]

You have a whole lot more experience than me, but I'm just going to put it out there that I would NEVER ever recommend cutting the fundamental frequency of a sound. EVER. Especially a bass sound. I'd look at the sequencing instead or try to sidechain it, or move the bass up an octave or something.

@ the OP; you've deleted the link to your track, so I can't really give you any advice at all.

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@ the OP; you've deleted the link to your track, so I can't really give you any advice at all.

No worries, I got it all figured out now

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Originally posted by kitphillips You have a whole lot more experience than me, but I'm just going to put it out there that I would NEVER ever recommend cutting the fundamental frequency of a sound. EVER. Especially a bass sound. I'd look at the sequencing instead or try to sidechain it, or move the bass up an octave or something.

why not?

sometimes you dont need the fundamental frequency in a sound due to psychoacoustics

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Originally posted by kitphillips You have a whole lot more experience than me, but I'm just going to put it out there that I would NEVER ever recommend cutting the fundamental frequency of a sound. EVER. Especially a bass sound. I'd look at the sequencing instead or try to sidechain it, or move the bass up an octave or something.

Try it sometime, you may be pleasantly surprised at the results.

Ive done it several ways. I have dipped the fundamental on tracks in the past and had it work. Try dipping your fundamental a few db but adding some bitcrushing or saturation at the end of your bass channel. You'd be surprised at how much presence the bass has without taking up a lot of headroom.

But again, it just depends on the situation, that's the point I was making. The idea is to have many techniques at your disposal, so that when you are having a problem you can try those techniques to fix them.

looks like a another case solved for the ta team lol

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There's some sort of internal (master) limiter on FL to prevent clipping over -0.0db. So make sure your mixer channels volumes are low enough (or atleast the master channel)

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Originally posted by Eric J Try it sometime, you may be pleasantly surprised at the results. Ive done it several ways. I have dipped the fundamental on tracks in the past and had it work. Try dipping your fundamental a few db but adding some bitcrushing or saturation at the end of your bass channel. You'd be surprised at how much presence the bass has without taking up a lot of headroom. But again, it just depends on the situation, that's the point I was making. The idea is to have many techniques at your disposal, so that when you are having a problem you can try those techniques to fix them.

Fair enough. I just think that if your dropping the fundamental you'd be better off just pulling down the fader. It tends to leave the sound hollow IMO.

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Great thread! Thank you

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Originally posted by a98 There's some sort of internal (master) limiter on FL to prevent clipping over -0.0db. So make sure your mixer channels volumes are low enough (or atleast the master channel)

the default template has a limiter on the master and it sucks.
My advice is get rid of this, set your kick to around -6 and mix to that. Leave limiting to mastering and even then don't pump and squash the crap out of the mix.

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Originally posted by Eric J Try dipping your fundamental a few db but adding some bitcrushing or saturation at the end of your bass channel. You'd be surprised at how much presence the bass has without taking up a lot of headroom.

Did this on my last track, used downsampling then FL's native overdrive fx 'blood overdrive' and some careful eq and compression. It's a rhythmic baseline rather than a rolling sidechained one. The technique gave it a nice crunchy sound and it stood out nicely in the mix with out compromising the low end eq's.

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