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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

That's not what the genre is "about", that's probably the part of the statement they're getting worked up about.

Myon & Shane 54 have on the bassline in the track: Andy Moor feat. Carrie Skipper - So Much More (Myon & Shane 54 Remix)

Now Open Sylenth1, Preset 088 BS Italo, Press and hold B2 or B1.

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

wait do you mean synth loops that have been rendered to wave/aiff, or synth loops within synths?

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

Is it not the end product that counts? I judge a track based on the entire track when it's finished, not on how exactly it was made.

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Originally posted by Nightshift wait do you mean synth loops that have been rendered to wave/aiff, or synth loops within synths?

WAV synth loops. I've used some of these in songs, though not recently, and never as a main part of a song. Sometimes a bass or synth loop fills the gaps in a mix beautifully.

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Originally posted by Nightshift Myon & Shane 54 have on the bassline in the track: Andy Moor feat. Carrie Skipper - So Much More (Myon & Shane 54 Remix) Now Open Sylenth1, Preset 088 BS Italo, Press and hold B2 or B1.

yeah well thats a good point isn't it.

A lot of people get high and mighty because they don't use loops. But then go and use a preset straight from a synth that has a sequence built in. So whats the difference there??

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Well... to be fair, its pretty hard to recognise those samples they used. If I sampled a sine wave from a track, granularised it, and used it for the basis of some additive synthesis, have I really "stolen" anything? IMO, not really.

I've been known to granularise some material and use it for pads before.

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Originally posted by 19503 no not really. if you know the original tracks they "stole" from u hear it instantly. little drumloops, stabs, vocals with only changing pitch, eq etc. i assume u have seen the "how to make voodoo people" - vid on youtube? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZYLp5uX9Yw smack my bitch up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5D...feature=related conclusion: sampling is an artform of itself!

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Originally posted by 19503 no not really. if you know the original tracks they "stole" from u hear it instantly. little drumloops, stabs, vocals with only changing pitch, eq etc. i assume u have seen the "how to make voodoo people" - vid on youtube? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZYLp5uX9Yw smack my bitch up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5D...feature=related conclusion: sampling is an artform of itself!

I was actually the one who posted the first video on here. So yes I am aware of how much they sample. But I personally don't think you'd have been able to pick where most of those samples came from. I doubt I'd be able to.

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Indeed, it is an art form in itself, even though its sampling other work.

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Originally posted by Fledz Is it not the end product that counts? I judge a track based on the entire track when it's finished, not on how exactly it was made.

Absolutely, but surely you also agree that originality counts for something (counts for a lot IMO).

This is why I don't shy away from presets but do tend to eschew loops, or at least the abundant use of them. When you use a preset, you're not doing "engineering" - I'm fine with that - but when you rely exclusively on loops, you're not really composing either, the work of art you produce is more like a sample collage than an original track.

To each his own, though. Whatever pays the bills, right?

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