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Originally posted by DJMaytag stereo bass was mostly a vinyl concern, as stereo bass would make the needle jump out of the groove. even then, vinyl masterings only made sure it was mono below 150hz. whatever you're using to mono-ize the master bus, you can drop it down a good bit more and still be fine.

You are right when it comes to why bass was mono in the past, but if I understand what you're saying, you're saying it's not as important now?

I have to strongly disagree there. Not sure if you have ever DJ'd before a large crowd or have experience with it, but you HAVE to have to kick and bass playing mono for two reasons.

#1 - A lot of club systems still use mono turbosound, etc
#2 - You simply cannot have bass stronger on one side than the other. Not only does it sound weird, but you run into a host of phase issues and low frequency problems that are VERY difficult to clean up.

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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley You are right when it comes to why bass was mono in the past, but if I understand what you're saying, you're saying it's not as important now? I have to strongly disagree there. Not sure if you have ever DJ'd before a large crowd or have experience with it, but you HAVE to have to kick and bass playing mono for two reasons. #1 - A lot of club systems still use mono turbosound, etc #2 - You simply cannot have bass stronger on one side than the other. Not only does it sound weird, but you run into a host of phase issues and low frequency problems that are VERY difficult to clean up.

no, the vinyl thing was the biggest reason, and you're right about what you listed above. i wasn't saying to go ahead and use stereo bass, as i always ensure nothing under 150hz is in stereo - and check how an entire track sounds flipped completely into mono, since some clubs really have no true L-R separation to speak of.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Yeah, its best to keep everything you can in mono actually, regardless of frequency. It makes the mix more focussed and punchy.

yea. I mono everything now, then selectively decide who the few lucky ones are that get to play in stereo. designing and working with mono versus stereo has been a huuuuuuge light bulb and step forward for me.

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