haven't you ever read a study about how these MMORPGs suck their customers/player base in? They treat you like a rat because your brain is stimulated on chance of rewards so you must keep playing.

Its like if a rat presses a lever to get a piece of cheese, the first time it doesn't give it to you, 2nd time, nothing, 3rd time, CHEESE!#)&$

and you'll sit there for hours and hours farming pigs to get that rare sword.

$60 down the drain

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Originally posted by smcmulli haven't you ever read a study about how these MMORPGs suck their customers/player base in? They treat you like a rat because your brain is stimulated on chance of rewards so you must keep playing. Its like if a rat presses a lever to get a piece of cheese, the first time it doesn't give it to you, 2nd time, nothing, 3rd time, CHEESE!#)&$ and you'll sit there for hours and hours farming pigs to get that rare sword. $60 down the drain

For me I always had fun masterbating with a night elf as an undead. It was the pointed ears that got me

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht Add me to the list of no life when that game came out. I don't understand how over 10 years later no other game can compare. I stopped playing MMorpgs after Ultima Online because they are just really shit.

It's because graphix > gameplay to the developers.

Also, they make games much more noob friendly, which sucks for those of us brought up on games like UO, that are entirely skill and free-market driven.

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Originally posted by Spam games like UO, that are entirely skill and free-market driven.

you know, now that you mention that. another thing that has ruined MMO's in general, and would be really hard (or impossible) to fix are bots. thinking back in UO, I remember I had a miner and I'd make a shit ton of money selling ingots (think it was like 7-10 per). towards the end of me playing UO, I remember the market rate plummeted to like 3-4, which was totally not worth it if you actually did the mining yourself.

a more recent game I played was Aion, and it was the same crap. I found my little niche of items that I was able to farm and sell for a decent profit, sure enough within a few weeks the market was flooded with the same item for like a third of what I was charging. and they always were sold by chars named "asdfoij" and the such.

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Originally posted by JD8180 they always were sold by chars named "asdfoij" and the such.

lol

were there chinese gold farmers in UO? they were all over the place in WoW when i played. they would yell NI HAO to each other and say CAO NI MA if another farmer stole the mob they were waiting to spawn. was so fun to mess with them, doing stuff like summoning them to remote/bugged out locations.

didn't have to worry about making money or farming since i was a guild leader tho. after one molten core run we'd accumulate enough crafting materials to make a bunch of fire resist gear to send around, and auction the rest. with the money i'd have enough to make a shit ton of potions for everyone in the next raid, and still had some hefty loose change left over. a few months in i had to be in the top few percent of rich fucks in the game my guild didn't complain, they got phat epix a few times per week.

anyway it's my opinion that accumulation of capital is the #1 thing that makes MMOs addictive - and is supported by how social the games are. the first time you log into the game and see someone with cool armor riding a mount, the "relative deprivation" sensor in your brain goes off. they really would be no fun at all without being "massively" multiplayer. the reason so many people flip shit or go insane when someone takes away their MMO account is they are losing so much of a time/work/gold investment, and grew so attached to the avatar that displays all of it to the friends they're pretty much forced to make.

i always say a disfiguring or paralyzing accident is the only thing that will get me to log in to a MMORPG ever again.

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Originally posted by DaRoZa i always say a disfiguring or paralyzing accident is the only thing that will get me to log in to a MMORPG ever again.

This for me is Star Wars: The Old Republic

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Originally posted by DaRoZa were there chinese gold farmers in UO? they were all over the place in WoW when i played. they would yell NI HAO to each other and say CAO NI MA if another farmer stole the mob they were waiting to spawn. was so fun to mess with them, doing stuff like summoning them to remote/bugged out locations.

I stopped UO probably some time around 2002 or so. I don't know if they were necessarily chinese farmers, but I know that easyuo program was out there and a whole bunch of people were passing about scripts to bot their chars around for endless mining and other resources.

even if you're already rich, it still somewhat ruins particular aspects of the game. I remember at one point I was getting bored of the pvm/pvp and took a break by starting up my blacksmith. for a while I'd just hang out at the smithy shop taking orders for people, chatting away for a while with other people while making decent money, which I had enjoyed. but when the farming was getting out of hand, ingots got so cheap that every body ended up making their own blacksmiths and doing it on their own.

and for games like wow that are so gear oriented, it sucks having the average gear that you can afford/worked for, while plenty of other players in your same level just buy gold and have all the top notch gear.

friends. reason i stopped playing wow a few years ago was:

a. friends stopped after burning crusade came out, realizing how they ruined the game

b. the gameplay became stupid, and earning gear became stupid, everything you worked for before had, was obsolete. i worked my ass for 24/7 (when i had no life) for around a 1 month to get the best gear in the game via high warlord rank. then, you could actually buy that shit in a matter of weeks. oh and simple blue/green items collected and equipped in a specific way made your highest ranked, top dungeon items obsolete.


the game sucks now

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Originally posted by jupiterone friends. reason i stopped playing wow a few years ago was: a. friends stopped after burning crusade came out, realizing how they ruined the game b. the gameplay became stupid, and earning gear became stupid, everything you worked for before had, was obsolete. i worked my ass for 24/7 (when i had no life) for around a 1 month to get the best gear in the game via high warlord rank. then, you could actually buy that shit in a matter of weeks. oh and simple blue/green items collected and equipped in a specific way made your highest ranked, top dungeon items obsolete. the game sucks now

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