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Originally posted by EddieZilker fixed

spot on

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Originally posted by srussell0018 and IGK, it's called http://tinyurl.com/29qrugs

I forgot Excel is offered but Access isn't and neither is Outlook, Entourage isn't the same.

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Unlike the other applications in the Mac version of the Microsoft Office suite, Entourage does not share a name with its Microsoft Windows counterpart... However, full parity with Outlook as an Exchange client is still not available in Entourage 2008[11]. Synchronization of tasks and notes with an Exchange server is still not available... One major shortcoming of Entourage is its inability to handle complex HTML. While messages can be received and viewed correctly, they cannot be forwarded without all formatting being stripped out. As an example, an airline confirmation received from, say, Imaginary Airlines, will not be able to be forwarded without all of the pictorial information being reduced to links, rendering the e-mail unreadable. Entourage cannot natively read Outlook Personal Folder files and cannot read Outlook archived emails without first re-importing them back into the main Windows Outlook database.[1] As a result, this makes it impossible to directly transfer email data from Outlook (Windows) into Entourage (Mac).

Okay, but it's essentially the same thing. God forbid you need to forward your plane tickets to another person?

one of you jagaloons should've stayed on your ritalin long enough to answer the guys the question, rather than making this thread about you...

benefits of a a mac:

- no antivirus
- no yearly reformat
- no drivers with most hardware
- no supporting microsoft (apple are also evil tho)
- no having to tweak the operating system to make it quicker/do common things
- no spyware
- fewer compatibility issues (apple vets hardware & software, both designed for each other)
- macbook pro has lightup keyboard (friggin sweet)
- less problematic for arts stuff/multimedia

if none of these are important to you, go buy a pc. i love my macbook pro though. for a desktop you can do better for the cash (hackintosh) but apple's laptops are the shit.

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Originally posted by leph555 If you are in video production, music production, or design you almost certainly are required to have a mac.

that is such a bullshit blanket statement that seemingly EVERYONE uses. i produce and have no problem whatsoever with my PC, and wouldn't change it for a mac, ever. i know quite a few graphic designers that use PC's too (though admittedly more of them use mac).

imo it's not worth the price difference. 1000 bucks will go a lot farther with a PC laptop than the same amount for a macbook pro or whatever. and again, everyone is complaining about stability, viruses, etc- if you know how to maintain your computer properly, you shouldn't have to worry about either, regardless of OS.

i use pc's (plural) and all my computers run as smoothly as they can. havent reformatted anything in at least 3 years and i cant remember the last time i had a proper virus or any other major problem. so yeah...

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if you're looking to get into pro audio/video then get a mac without a doubt, then go buy pro tools or an avid video system

besides that, there really isn't a reason to choose mac over pc at all, ive encountered the same amount of problems on a mac that i have on a pc.

3 years from now u will still have running as smooth as first day u bought
3 years from now u will have to buy new pc

Ur call buy machine today that ll work for 3+ years or buy 2 windows machines in that time

No brainer to me

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Originally posted by Steinway379 3 years from now u will still have running as smooth as first day u bought 3 years from now u will have to buy new pc Ur call buy machine today that ll work for 3+ years or buy 2 windows machines in that time No brainer to me

windows 7 is a really great operating system. seriously though, if you're not choosing pro audio/pro video as your career path, go microsoft, there is just so much to do on the system

If you don't know enough about computers to know the advantages vs. disadvantages of going either way, you should probably get a Mac.

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Originally posted by jupiterone if you're looking to get into pro audio/video then get a mac without a doubt, then go buy pro tools or an avid video system besides that, there really isn't a reason to choose mac over pc at all, ive encountered the same amount of problems on a mac that i have on a pc.

I have had far, far more problems on PC, from crashes to viruses, to drivers, to incompatibility, etc.

I got my first mac in 1992, and I used exclusively macs for some time until my parents bought me a PC for school compatibility. I used PCs then for years at home just because all of my software was PC, and only last year did I finally buy a iMac again, and it's so much better. I am a graphic designer (employed and freelance) and in all of my work experience, I have only ever used macs - my father was a graphic designer too, which is why I grew up with them. Back then, macintosh was the preferred OS for commerical printers and print production software such as Quark, and of course the Adobe suite of products originated on Macintosh. This is why it's so ingrained in design culture.

These days, things are pretty much available cross platform. I find Windows interfaces to be clumsy, cluttered, busy, and ostentatious. Even when I used PCs I had highly customized minimalist shells because it strained my workflow and visual experience. I think MacOS far exceeds any windows platform in terms of this user experience. Part of the user experience for me is that things work intuitively, simply, and easily. I used to have to hack everything together in the PC World, to install programs, uninstall programs, change certain preferences, change icons, etc, etc... with MacOS, everything is exceptionally smooth and simple. Some PC users may prefer this kind of complexity and pass off the simplicity as being reductionist or dumbed-down, but then they just aren't looking closely enough: the programmer in my studio uses his iMac almost entirely through his terminal application, for instance, and he's completely customized the thing. When it concerns workflow, day to day usability, dependability, and the 'feeling' that the workspace of the OS provides me, there is no competition.

Also, I am not an apple fan boy. I use an android phone, for instance, and I think the iPad is fucking stupid.

And, I do wear almost all thrift store clothes (not even remotely a trust-fund kid though), for work, and it's awesome. Sorry you guys can't wear what you want to work and use computers that work.

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