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Originally posted by FunkyCrew seriously, stop right there you don't live here and that's the end of it.

really? so my leaving because of the BS isnt worth anything? I still have a toronto address. Just not downtown!

And id gladly take public transport if it were a serious option. I just dont see the cost effectiveness or the convenience. Id like to see that change!

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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Originally posted by geroin i hate streetcars but buses cause a lot more pollution in would be for electrical buses or trolleybuses only and since the city is growing north i would be for subway extending to at least major mackenzie on young from finch station.

hybrid buses like in waterloo..although cost and maintenance will prob be higher

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew streetcars > buses leave the buses for the boonies, downtown is doing great with the 'cars

i completely agree (wtf?!) but for street cars to be effective they need their own dedicated lanes. Do that and transportation with them will be very comparable to subways. I love what they did on St Clair, even though I rarely go there anymore. Do that with College, Queen and Bathurst and we're set.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH i completely agree (wtf?!) but for street cars to be effective they need their own dedicated lanes. Do that and transportation with them will be very comparable to subways.

wtf!
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Originally posted by Jayx1 really? so my leaving because of the BS isnt worth anything? I still have a toronto address. Just not downtown! And id gladly take public transport if it were a serious option. I just dont see the cost effectiveness or the convenience. Id like to see that change!

why are you complaining about public transit that you don't even use?Don't you drive everywhere?

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew why are you complaining about public transit that you don't even use?Don't you drive everywhere?

because i dont use it for a reason! read what i wrote. Id gladly use it if it were a suitable option. So im posting about ways to make it a suitable option so that i would use it!

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH i completely agree (wtf?!) but for street cars to be effective they need their own dedicated lanes. Do that and transportation with them will be very comparable to subways. I love what they did on St Clair, even though I rarely go there anymore. Do that with College, Queen and Bathurst and we're set.

dedicated right of ways have proven to be disruptive and an expensive boondoggle. A lot of st clair stores have gone out of business thanks to that right of way.

Subways are faster and dont take up surface space. They truly create more capacity instead of shifting or reducing it.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 dedicated right of ways have proven to be disruptive and an expensive boondoggle. A lot of st clair stores have gone out of business thanks to that right of way. Subways are faster and dont take up surface space. They truly create more capacity instead of shifting or reducing it.

Subways are a massive investment though, and cause years of disruption. Agree with you but putting in a subway is a whole other project when compared to a streetcar lane or even easier, putting up a bus stop.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew seriously, stop right there you don't live here and that's the end of it.

Fallacy. Even though he does not live in TO, does not make his point any less valid.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew trolleybuses are essentially the same as streetcars, since they are limited to the lines they're attached too minus the tracks I love how people who don't even live downtown or use streetcars whine the most, fuck. Wanna use the bus? Take the lovely route 36 on Jane & Finch Buses are loud, hardly any faster and way more uncomfortable to ride in.

I hate the street car on King. It fucks up all of traffic during rush hour. Why would you stop TWO lanes of traffic, for only one vehicle? Now with all the construction for the king street car, if you want to go west, you have to transfer, change routes, it gets crazy. To get to work from roncy, I actually go out of the way (North) to the subway to avoid that whole mess!
I've lived at steeles, and the bus did just fine up there. Please once again, what advantages do the streetcars have over buses?

Get rid of the streetcars, and you get rid of a part of Toronto's culture that aids in tourism. Kill annoyance for some, kill pleasure for others. Ironic that some would want to go Adam Vaughn on streetcars.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie Get rid of the streetcars, and you get rid of a part of Toronto's culture that aids in tourism. Kill annoyance for some, kill pleasure for others.

I dont think people come here for the streetcars to be honest. And if they did, we will still have 3 dedicated lanes in use for them.

Every other north american city got rid of them long ago for good reason.

The penny is something else that needs to go LOL

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill