dude, I'm telling you, you dont NEED 250 watts of testicle crushing wattage because honestly, you will never EVER have them going that loud anyways, I have a kickass pair of Paradigm speakers that can rock the shit out of most speakers out there yet they are only around 100 watts and i have never EVER gone past halfway on my reciever's volume dial.

Oh and to however said that 38-40 hz is low bass.....you must be joking ???????
that is like mid range dude, My sub is capable of playing 25 hz signals and my buddy's home built sub can play as low as 23 hz.....that is guarenteed to shake the house.

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Originally posted by Ray_Finkle Oh and to however said that 38-40 hz is low bass.....you must be joking ??????? that is like mid range dude, My sub is capable of playing 25 hz signals and my buddy's home built sub can play as low as 23 hz.....that is guarenteed to shake the house.

No offense but that's pretty hilarious

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA


our hearing ranges from 20 to 20 000 kHz

subs on a general basis range from 20~50Hz to 500~4000 Hz

and by the way chances are your hearing is not perfect and you can't even hear at 20~50 Hz ... almost no one does .. due to age, excessive amounts of noise and music or what not , your hearing wears out and the frequency range you can hear lowers literraly by the day.

second point mids , if you have speakers that are 3 way , will cover the frequency range starting around 2000 Hz or so ....

so please refrain from dumb ( no offense ) moronic comments like :

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Originally posted by Ray_Finkle Oh and to however said that 38-40 hz is low bass..... that is like mid range dude

trust me 38 - 40 Hz is garanteed to whip your mothers ass and the bed she'll be getting smaked on




j/k please don't take it personnaly

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Originally posted by Ray_Finkle dude, I'm telling you, you dont NEED 250 watts of testicle crushing wattage because honestly, you will never EVER have them going that loud anyways,

yeppers 250 watts is a tad over powerful for home usage

and

I know this is totally off subject but I'm testing you

what do you think is the approximate power you find at concerts / clubs ?

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Originally posted by TranceGeek well actually overpowering would cause a lot more distortion and could damage the speakers permanently... underpowering will not really destort unless turned all the way... it's too bad home audio isn't as easy to bridge as car audio *shrugs*

tru, but i was talking about underpowering because jdat said underpowering won't do anything, but infact will couse distortion

yes bridging ownz

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Originally posted by DJ Teknique tru, but i was talking about underpowering because jdat said underpowering won't do anything, but infact will couse distortion

now there is one dilemma which you should not confuse ..

distortion at 200-250 while be un noticable ... you're running at 200 watts... minimal distortion and anyhow it's not even distortion if your amp has a good s/n ratio and low distortion

I'm not sure about what I'm saying at all ... but when you have an 300 W amp turned half way ... it delivers 150 Watts?
I am clueless about this ... it's beyond my theorical knowledge././////

what I mean to say by this is that really ... it's no big deal to underpower! ..... actually most home systems never have the equivalent wattage on both the amp and speakers ... and everyone does fine ...

Why do these threads always turn into arguments over the range of the human ear? This has been done before, and more than enough times. Let's get back to the original question, shall we?

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Originally posted by jdat No offense but that's pretty hilarious HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA our hearing ranges from 20 to 20 000 kHz subs on a general basis range from 20~50Hz to 500~4000 Hz and by the way chances are your hearing is not perfect and you can't even hear at 20~50 Hz ... almost no one does .. due to age, excessive amounts of noise and music or what not , your hearing wears out and the frequency range you can hear lowers literraly by the day. second point mids , if you have speakers that are 3 way , will cover the frequency range starting around 2000 Hz or so .... so please refrain from dumb ( no offense ) moronic comments like : trust me 38 - 40 Hz is garanteed to whip your mothers ass and the bed she'll be getting smaked on j/k please don't take it personnaly

Wow. Just wow. Your are either ignorant or just plain retarded. not hear that low? that's arguable but you will be able to FEEL that frequency. I'm not bullshitting you, if my subwoofer was to only be able to play above say, 30-35, that would suck. You would miss out on sooooooooo much of the music. Trust me. Just regular speakers will not even begin to approach the frequencies that subs can get and if the original poster wants power, he best augment his collection with a GOOD sub (read: not the one jdat buys)

I know that 38-40 is not mid but I was just comparing that to how non-impactful those frerquencies will be.
And you are a moron. Plain and simple. Can't hear below 50hz? That is the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard in my life. I guarentee that if you had a frequency generator with you right now, you could hear all the frequencies to prolly 20hz (which is the lower limit for human audio reception)

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Originally posted by Trypsin Why do these threads always turn into arguments over the range of the human ear? This has been done before, and more than enough times. Let's get back to the original question, shall we?

well I didn't mean to get to this whole debate started


but he was saying 35 Hz wasn't bass but mid ... .

I couldn't let him say that

oh and jdat, the typical dB level at a rock concert is prolly in the range of 80-130 where 80 is like a pansy dashboard confessional concert and 130-135 is an indie band rocking it out with their amps turned up all the way.

However most places have sound by-laws so the sound techs have to be careful.

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Well, I placed the order today for the JBL ND310's.. I had another good listen yesterday and compared them to some klpisch's and infinitys (i think).. I think the JBLs sound better.

I'm probably going to get the entry level yamaha reciever at 100x2Watts and use moster cable.. all this should be here soon i'll let you know how it sounds..

Thank you all for your help! ANYTHING will sound better than the crappy stero i have now.. TRUST me.. it's awful.

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Originally posted by Ray_Finkle If you want to pay a lot and get amazing recievers, go with ONKYO or Boston Acoustic. Those are like the cream of the crop

if you want to pay alot, get a good pro audio amp such as something from crown, mackie, qsc, etc etc... and hook your mixer up to that

-mer

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Originally posted by wozzeck Well, I placed the order today for the JBL ND310's.. I had another good listen yesterday and compared them to some klpisch's and infinitys (i think).. I think the JBLs sound better. I'm probably going to get the entry level yamaha reciever at 100x2Watts and use moster cable.. all this should be here soon i'll let you know how it sounds.. Thank you all for your help! ANYTHING will sound better than the crappy stero i have now.. TRUST me.. it's awful.

ah that's great dude !
I hope you're gonna like your new equipement!

but don't forget... don't play music to loud... your neighbours might not like trance