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Originally posted by Stilez That being said, to overlook Spain-Portugal's bid? England's bid? Japan? I'm sure $$ had to have exchanged hands for this decision to be

FIFA is fucked, they definitely have their own agenda or as you said some back-door dealings were going on. England eliminated on the first ballot? Give me a break.

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Originally posted by jon jon in 2022 I'll be 42 lol Qatar!!!!!!!!

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The Telegraph:

I wonder how much richer the Fifa elite now are after awarding it to Russia. They must be feeling very smug indeed. The obvious choice for Blatter and his pack of thieves. A nation run by oligarchs and organised crime where journalists that tell the truth are beaten to death and democracy died a death almost a generation ago.

It is interesting that they were prepared to look past the mafia type society, the appalling racism and corruption both of which is endemic in Russian society due to the supposed benefits.


No need for Putin to show up, he knew the result in advance, having organised his mafia pals to pay of fifa.

PS, it was nice surprise to hear so many good words about Russia in this thread

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Originally posted by Stilez Why do you always have to bring the same argument into every topic? I/we get it, you're a feminist. Cool, but quit trolling your fkn agenda into every discussion, ALL THE TIME. Don't mean to be a fkn asshole about it, but it's getting to me. Let's leave this thread to the topic of Futbol & FIFA. That being said, to overlook Spain-Portugal's bid? England's bid? Japan? I'm sure $$ had to have exchanged hands for this decision to be made. What has Qatar contributed to football in the last....forever years?

She's like that because of the fact that she's a lesbian and we all know that lesbians are miserable. A lot of them hate on men and think they are superior to them. I wouldn't worry about it dude.

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this wasn't needed. I didn't need to get requoted. The point is not to drift off topic. I've known Sarah for years, and despite the fact that we're not buddies, I have nothing against her. This applies to you to. No disrespect to Sarah or anyone, just try keeping a thread on topic for once ffs ppl.

Now, as sure as I am that some sort of monetary 'cohesion' may have been involved with most bids, I'm not opposed to Russia winning because they've been a major Sports powerhouse for a long time & I think with the Olympics going there, it's their time right now. Qatar on the other hand??? Ridiculous. Makes no sense whatsoever.

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oooh russian olympics or russian world cup? i want to go!

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I am sure Putin and his mafia goons are going to make as much of a killing as those who voted for Russia (see recent Wikileaks release citing US government assessment). Given this corruption and level of criminality, together with the amount of overt and violent racism that pervades football ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11879346 ) and certain aspects of society, Fifa are taking risks in choosing Russia and Qatar (risky for different reasons).

I would like to think that some logic was employed in the ballot, and that the two countries were chosen precisely because there is so much untapped potential there (in Qatar's case, the wider Middle East is under-represented in footballing terms), as part of Fifa's remit is to leave a legacy. Additionally, since both countries are still developing societies (slightly 'backward', if you want to use a pejorative & negative term), bringing such a big spectacle to their shores will also help in broadening the residents' horizons, and encouraging them to become world citizens. If you constantly play it safe by targeting the big sporting nations (Australia), and countries that have hosted the tournament before (US, Japan, England and Spain), it could be argued that the game will not grow as much. Since it is a competitive field, and as there are so many sports out there that vying for the attention of aspiring athletes, Fifa might be thinking that it is vital to expand their market share.

Russia's win was expected, while Qatar was certainly a shocker. I thought it should have been Australia or USA. Oh well.

I am already booked for visiting my birthtown/hometown Sochi for 2014 Winter Olympics (beautiful city), and I will also be at these 2018 games, FOR SURE!

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Originally posted by LightsOut FIFA is fucked, they definitely have their own agenda or as you said some back-door dealings were going on. England eliminated on the first ballot? Give me a break.

Considering recent Wikileaks data branding Russia as "mafia state", it is not a surprise. Putin actually clearly stated that FIFA officials are "victims of smear campaign", and cleverly played the political card by not showing up to "exercise pressure" on the decision.

Panorama is a respected show. Its obvious that FIFA isn't clean, the way the voting system goes and all the back-door voting / deals happening, come on ... They just shoved the whole controversy thing under the carpet, that shows a lot.

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Originally posted by exraver Bricks will be shat The Telegraph: I wonder how much richer the Fifa elite now are after awarding it to Russia. They must be feeling very smug indeed. The obvious choice for Blatter and his pack of thieves. A nation run by oligarchs and organised crime where journalists that tell the truth are beaten to death and democracy died a death almost a generation ago. It is interesting that they were prepared to look past the mafia type society, the appalling racism and corruption both of which is endemic in Russian society due to the supposed benefits. No need for Putin to show up, he knew the result in advance, having organised his mafia pals to pay of fifa. PS, it was nice surprise to hear so many good words about Russia in this thread

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Originally posted by Adamo Meanwhile in Russia ...

Thats not funny at all, because Russia has been ranked in the top 30 or so for football nations for quite some time now. It is Canada you should be making fun of, what are they ranked again in the world? Insults like that are uncalled for.

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haha wow...way to get offended. What insult?...its a funny picture!

Get a grip.