Too true...it's a slippery slope, just gotta' take a step-back sometimes otherwise you just disappear up your own Anus

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Originally posted by shane_w1 For the questions though: Im studying Electrical Engineering at BSc level and don't have many problems at the moment in the field...where I mean 4 different wavelengths, im talking Square waves, Sine waves and Saw waves into 1 channeled complete sound...you can literally create bigger sounds on Sylenth than with Rob Papen Predator and if you think you can create 1 sound on Rob Papen Predator aswell as on Sylenth then that's obsurd, create a Preset on Sylenth, piece of p*ss...create a Preset on Korg M1 and you'll be there for hours...or maybe not with your "Acid lead" A cut-off frequency is where the sole power of the sound or it's source (energy) can be reduced eg by filtering but of course I googled that right?I don't experiment or see for myself...it's a fairly basic terminology but I understand, I might be "new" to this site so I can understand the scrutiny and patronizing comment for every detail. The arpegiating layout, by that I mean Sylenth has the option on the Interface for 7 steps where as Rob Papen Predator has 16 which can be altered but also there is no "Swing" mode on Sylenth which means Papen Predator is more geared for Swing orientated Genres like House justifying my opinions wholly.

you talk like a noob so I don't know what to say. Engineering ? Really ? A square wave is not a wavelength. How you could mix that up is beyond me and grade 11 physics. Arpegiattors won't make much difference as you can replicate all that in your DAW. Gladiator sounding retro ? Are you mad.

And the cutoff frequency is when the roll off is 3 dB. Again a very simple concept that you should know by your first semester in Engineering.

I don't believe for a second that you have even taken any courses related to the actual core of your degree but most likely taking the prerequisites that most smart kids are exempted from. And this is coming from a guy that studied music.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad you talk like a noob so I don't know what to say. Engineering ? Really ? A square wave is not a wavelength. How you could mix that up is beyond me and grade 11 physics. Arpegiattors won't make much difference as you can replicate all that in your DAW. Gladiator sounding retro ? Are you mad. And the cutoff frequency is when the roll off is 3 dB. Again a very simple concept that you should know by your first semester in Engineering. I don't believe for a second that you have even taken any courses related to the actual core of your degree but most likely taking the prerequisites that most smart kids are exempted from. And this is coming from a guy that studied music.

That's the passband value (3/-3db)...im giving basic terminology but yes that's the true value given Maxwell's equation followed by umpteen others but how do you explain that to someone who doesn't know?A basic overall description which I gave is perfectly reasonable and is actually defined in most books where they then delve deeper..I can go as deep as it needs to be.

We have already studied Basic Modulation systems even when I was in College doing Electronics and Electrical Engineering, we studied Square Waves digitally and studied various Analogue systems too...how can we question that a Square Wave is NOT a Wavelength?It's in the name!!

The Arpegiating setting is clearly just a point im proving to show how different VST's can be...im NOT saying we cannot change it, im actually pointing it out and saying what the differences are.

I studied at Ystrad Mynach College for my BTEC Nat. Diploma in Electronics and Electrical Engineering (achieved Distinction, Merit, Merit) before studying at Glamorgan University for which is now my BSc, you can even Facebook my name: Shane Williams, go into my Education and even see the years I was there whilst also seeing comments on my Wall with my friends asking how my presentation went in Uni on Monday.

Crazy guys, absolutely crazy...im a member of Serious-Sounds, SHM and L-Luke forums and I have a good reputation on them and an excellent reputation on Serious-Sounds for tutorials on how to make certain sounds yet i've never met 2 Members quick to judge or criticize.

The music is what matters.'

I have a couple sample libraries and a couple preset banks.
But I see them as tools and idea generators.

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Originally posted by shane_w1 That's the passband value (3/-3db)...im giving basic terminology but yes that's the true value given Maxwell's equation followed by umpteen others but how do you explain that to someone who doesn't know?A basic overall description which I gave is perfectly reasonable and is actually defined in most books where they then delve deeper..I can go as deep as it needs to be. .

I managed to explain it in 8 or so words. I criticize you because you conflate way too much and not that I ever asserted you were a noob, but rather , you sound like a fish. For someone to misuse such basic terminology that is rampant in Engineering indicates to me you have no idea what you are talking about. In one post , you managed to use wave length and cutoff frequency improperly. Maybe i'm wrong but you aren't making it easy to believe you. And I could care less about your reputation on a fan site for a rather shitty producer. I have an alt on newmothers.com where I pretend to be a mom. My cred is rather high.

And even in your last post, you still don't understand the concept of wavelength and a type of wave. A wavelength is the length of a period. Jesus. It has absolutely nothing to do with the kind of wave. I would suggest another field other than engineering. At first I thought it was a language thing but you live in Britain. Shit

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Lol Okay Cosmic Gate...il leave you to it.

I just checked the Reference for Trance Addict on a few forums and the feedback is shocking, you cannot fathom a reasonable attack on the terminologies, im sat on my computer chair browsing a forum trying to engage in conversation with Producers who are learning the trade ffs. How could you explain it in 8 words?The average joe wouldn't understand that, I put it to them in a way where they could visualize it and go "ah I see, like Deadmau5 does with his leads" but instead you managed to branch a few words aswell and some people will go "wtf", either way it's both right but the way you explained it is not helpful for other Producers.

You guys jump a gun at me not being a Professor in my field?How am I wrong?Im absolutely correct and only quoted what i've learnt but you guys have probably Wikipedia'd it and decided I haven't gone far enough with my explanations?I work 3 days a week for GE in Caerphilly as an Engineer and am trying to juggle my commitments aswell...I have even checked the 'Haters' on this sites material and it's awful, compression lacks any punch, hardly any low-end punch on the basslines and simple Acid leads??I want to help you guys, listen to your stuff, engage in the Community and learn myself...I can tell im not going to get that from here.


Just to show...a square wave IS a wavelength, a saw wave is a wavelength, they have characteristics that include: wavelength, frequency and speed. If it doesn't have a wavelength then it's not a waveform...it cannot complete the transitions.

Honestly...crazy, a select few of you are not the help of cause for the Music Community at all, your quick to despise and scrutinize everything without actually going "Yeah I suppose your right, it does to that and yes that's right, it is" when it ACTUALLY IS RIGHT...it's not my own theory, it's in my Books I read, it's an everyday thing I know, like Ohms Law for Grade 11 Physics, Pi in Grade 11 Maths to Polynomial equations and Cubic equations to which I study now...I don't need to explain anymore, im bored of this stuff.

If any of you want really helpful info. and tutorials then head over to Serious-Sounds...we are a welcoming and friendly community and have Artists signed to some of the biggest labels.

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A square wave HAS a wavelength, it isn't a wave length. Hilarious. Compression has punch? What fucking planet are you from. And the only hater here is me and I have nothing public except for EDM I did before 2004. I appreciate your whole messianic outlook but I think you are the one that needs some schooling.

But don't go. Dealing with knob heads like yourself is rather entertaining and helps deal with the general morass of daily life.

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A Waveform such as Square, Sine (Sinusoiidal) Saw all have a Wavelength and cannot function without them so why would they not be?!(Square Wavelength Modulation was in one of my units for an Assignment ffs?!)This is crazy stuff...."a compression has punch" is not making sense?Oh dear..compression lacks punch doesn't make sense?!Ever thought the release or attack units on the Compressor might be at full whack therefore it compensates on the punch?Referring to a Bassline or White-Noise why would that completely sound like a joke?!It's mental.

F*cking crazy mate. I think im aloud to just go Pfffft, haters are a joke!

You said square wave is a Wave length. That is incorrect. It has a wavelength. Why are you having such a fucking hard time understanding this. If a square wave is a wavelength, and I assume you think a saw wave is also a Wavelength, then a saw wave is a square wave. Do you see why you sort of sound like an idiot?

This is too funny

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Last edited by Looney4Clooney on Feb-09-2011 at 01:18

You can study the IEEE Electrical Handbook and it will explain all the Waveforms in/as Wavelengths...it's not even funny anymore...just read a book.

As for me...forget Trance Addict, i've talked to 3-4 Producers who have had material signed to Armada and Blackhole Recordings and they agree, Trance Addict can be useful and every now and then someone can be helpful but they generally agree on the same principles as me.

I think you are the one that needs to do a little studying. Let me break this down for you. Wavelength has two words wave and length meaning the length of a wave ie a distance. It says absolutely nothing about the actual shape which is better described as a mathematical function. A wavelength is not a function.

go to page 40 of the Rossing book.

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Originally posted by shane_w1 As for me...forget Trance Addict, i've talked to 3-4 Producers who have had material signed to Armada and Blackhole Recordings and they agree, Trance Addict can be useful and every now and then someone can be helpful but they generally agree on the same principles as me.

You have an interesting way of explaining yourself but the only reason you're leaving is because you sabotaged your own credibility by presuming to be the smartest person in the room without actually being the smartest person in the room.

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