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Originally posted by Kysora I just randomly downloaded Winamp today since I'm getting rather tired of iTunes. Every time I export a new version of a track I'm working on, something I have to do constantly because I literally can't listen to the track in my DAW due to memory shortages, it'll end the song at the point where the earliest version of the track used to end. So if I export a track as "untitled", and it's 45 seconds long, then do it again with the same name, it won't play past 45 seconds. Unless I skip ahead, but then it starts playing only at 46 seconds onward. Kind of annoying. Anyway, my songs sound completely different in Winamp. The bass is louder and my music sounds horribly muddy. I think iTunes colors the sound in some way, even though I've never touched the EQ settings. I have Audacity but never really had much use for it since all of my mixing and mastering is done in FL, but doing a quick listen with both that and Windows Media Player, they all sound very different from iTunes. I don't know if it's my settings or not but if anyone's using that as a reference it's probably a bad idea. Sorry for the rant, not really sure what there is to discuss about this, but fucking hell this is annoying. My music is always being called muddy and I've never been able to hear it before. My mixes sound fucking awful outside of iTunes. Don't use it.

try quicktime?

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Originally posted by ken_lee you have a few options from here: learn to bounce or work more effective (less instruments), buy a new computer or get a new hobby. im shocked anyone work like this, its really fucking retarded. its like painting in blind and watching the result afterwards. edit: seriously, get a grip!

I don't know why you're being such an ass about this. I also don't know why you're trying to tell me this as if you think I don't already know it's a fucked up way of producing. It's all I have available at the moment and for the most part, it works for me. And I actually enjoy writing music, so I'm willing to put up with it.

im not being an ass about it. im telling you like a boss telling his ineffective employee to change to the better, or like your best friend throws a bucket of water in your face and slaps you when youre too drunk or high, or when your parents yelling at you for not doing your homework. just bounce the tracks man, this is ridiculous. if i where an ass i would shut my mouth and let you continue with your bad habit. i do it out of love lol.

Yup if i was you i would never listen to my tracks Critically in anything apart from a Wave Editor.

All MP3 play back tools will colour the sound in some fashion, thats what makes them sound *better* than their competition right?

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After I bounce down a track I bring the WAV into a new/blank session of Live and give it a listen.

Hang on, this thread reminds me of some classic Robby Rox "problems", most of which were found to be user error.

You really should not have to go through this sort of thing. Christ, I've got an old AMD single core with 512mb of ram I can still produce on. My imac only has 1gig RAM and I have no problems.

Couple of questions for you:

What soundcard do you have?
What DAW are you using?
What OS are you?
How do you use FX (inserts or sends etc)?
What Synths/Plugs do you use most?

I honestly think there is something else going wrong in your setup, that would disappear if you figure out what the bottleneck is. Honestly, I've been through this more times than I can count, and bar one of those occasions, there was either a glaring mistake, user error or obvious conflict that was causing the problems.

Let me know and I'll try to help.

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Originally posted by Nick Cenik After I bounce down a track I bring the WAV into a new/blank session of Live and give it a listen.

Yeah, the latency is still an issue when I do that though.

I think referencing in a program that doesn't color the sound is paying off. Things are sounding rather nice already:

http://tindeck.com/listen/hwcc

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Originally posted by DJ RANN What soundcard do you have? -- Soundmax digital audio. Came with the dell. What DAW are you using? -- FL Studio 8. What OS are you? -- XP How do you use FX (inserts or sends etc)? -- Linking channels to inserts in FL's mixer, I don't use sends much. Maybe that's causing latency? I dunno. What Synths/Plugs do you use most? -- Atmosphere and Omnisphere for pads, Sylenth for leads/bass and Nexus, z3ta+ and Predator for other random stuff

Now that I think about it I rarely use the sends in FL's mixer, if I have something simple that I'll apply to multiple channels, like delay, I'll just use an insert instead. I really hope that's not causing it..

Appreciate the offer to help, thanks. Dunno what you can surmise based off of this info though, unless it's the insert/send thing.

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Originally posted by Kysora Yeah, the latency is still an issue when I do that though. I think referencing in a program that doesn't color the sound is paying off. Things are sounding rather nice already: http://tindeck.com/listen/hwcc

honestly i always thought your productions were really muddy, but good ideas and i can honestly say now that you got that hunch figured out that this is the smoothest mix ive heard from you thus far.

not my style of music anymore really, but its nice to see a TA member creating things like this.

btw God told me you're an ****ing idiot.

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Originally posted by meriter Your primary focus should be making good music. That's all. No one gives a shit how you do it. And the people that do are fags.

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Originally posted by Nightshift honestly i always thought your productions were really muddy, but good ideas and i can honestly say now that you got that hunch figured out that this is the smoothest mix ive heard from you thus far.

This is awesome to hear. Thanks a ton!

My pc is an old single core P4, I frequently make it shit itself too. But I've also spent alot of time making sure that I can push it to its limit.

What OS are you running? Have you taken steps to optimize it for producing?

Oh, and as a player for listening back on, media player classicis awesome for both music and movies. Quick and simple.

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What is your system specs?

I use a 2ghz athlon (no dual core or any of that shit) with 1gb ram.

Projects get difficult to play through towards the end but I can get 80% of the way there without any issues.

So either you have a REALLY shit pc. Or you are have something wrong with your settings or you produce in a very inefficient way.

In the first case, upgrade! You ain't gotta buy something new and expensive. A modest upgrade would benefit you hugely. Even an extra couple of gigs of ram which costs fuck all.

In the second case, post your exact system, soundcard, drivers and preference settings of your daw. Someone will know if something isn't right.

In the third case, speak to Robby Rox and look to setup your own production class together.

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