Originally posted by kotsy
unless they ask for a bigger cut from the house dealers
That's a no-no.
Feb-09-2011 19:26
srussell0018
Chaostician
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Blumsberg
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Elyot
The transition at 26:40 is something he did at Guv as well... he mixed out of "Found A Way" right before the final climax. This made me SOOO FUCKING MAD. "Found A Way" is the only track in that entire video clip that has both a chord progression and a kick drum playing at the same time, and he still manages to fuck it up and replace the climax with BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM. Yeah, JOC's style and I DO NOT GET ALONG. FUUUUUUUUCK.
Yeah, nowhere near enough unicorns in his sets...
Feb-09-2011 19:29
DJ_Elyot
Havarti > Gouda
Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Yeah, nowhere near enough unicorns in his sets...
Don't get me wrong; I love J00F-trance and darker stuff, at many times preferring it over Armin cheese. I think having a distaste for repetitive and monotonous tech-trance is quite independent from unicorns.
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Feb-09-2011 20:12
srussell0018
Chaostician
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Blumsberg
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Elyot
Don't get me wrong; I love J00F-trance and darker stuff, at many times preferring it over Armin cheese. I think having a distaste for repetitive and monotonous tech-trance is quite independent from unicorns.
My biggest complaint about JoC is his lack of energy behind the decks. I hate going to shows and seeing someone just kind of nodding his head a little bit and looking like he's not really putting much into it.
Check out Christopher Lawrence Live @ Pacha Buenos Aires from September 2010. Now that's a good set.
Feb-09-2011 22:02
Nobbie Q
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Mississauga, Ontario CA
quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
My biggest complaint about JoC is his lack of energy behind the decks. I hate going to shows and seeing someone just kind of nodding his head a little bit and looking like he's not really putting much into it.
Check out Christopher Lawrence Live @ Pacha Buenos Aires from September 2010. Now that's a good set.
So you think a DJ grooving and having fun with the music they're playing (even if the music itself is not great) can help with the set? I'm not arguing with you...it's just interesting you bring this up. I notice A LOT of DJs (Digweed for example) who barely do anything behind the decks and I wonder if there was more interactivity if it would make the set itself better
Originally posted by Nobbie Q
So you think a DJ grooving and having fun with the music they're playing (even if the music itself is not great) can help with the set? I'm not arguing with you...it's just interesting you bring this up. I notice A LOT of DJs (Digweed for example) who barely do anything behind the decks and I wonder if there was more interactivity if it would make the set itself better
If the DJ is good enough i don't think it is necessary. However DJ'ing aside, I think if you see anyone performing any form of art and enjoying themselves...it does add a new dimension to the experience.
Originally posted by DJ_Elyot
I really hated JOC's set at contact at guv last year. Every track was BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM, no harmony, no chord progression. The only melodic bits were in the breakdowns. He even played amelodic remixes of melodic classics. I was sooooo sad when he dropped an "As The Rush Comes" remix which was really just the vocal played over top of a kickdrum and an amelodic tribal bassline. His set was disappointment after disappointment. Every time a track showed promise of having a good melody, it would turn straight into BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM with no melody or chord progression. The only track I enjoyed all night was "Found A Way". I know that some people like the "disappointment-trance" style, but I find it incredibly sad and frustrating to listen to.
I'll probably give him another chance at Beta, but if he plays like that again, I'll just leave. JOC at Guv was the most disappointing set of 2010 for me.
Glenn Morrison, however, is well worth my $5. ^_^
I will agree to disagree. I like JOC because he bangs it out uncompromisingly. Yeah there are long and drawn out buildups but it all honesty it comes with the genre. They don't call it Trance for shits and giggles. When I go to see a DJ like JOC, I know exactly what I am going in for and he delivers everytime.
Originally posted by samhouse
If the DJ is good enough i don't think it is necessary. However DJ'ing aside, I think if you see anyone performing any form of art and enjoying themselves...it does add a new dimension to the experience.
Like this!
Feb-10-2011 15:34
Yohan
Champion of Deep&Nu-disco
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Kitchener, Ont, Soviet Canuckistan
quote:
Originally posted by Nobbie Q
So you think a DJ grooving and having fun with the music they're playing (even if the music itself is not great) can help with the set? I'm not arguing with you...it's just interesting you bring this up. I notice A LOT of DJs (Digweed for example) who barely do anything behind the decks and I wonder if there was more interactivity if it would make the set itself better
I notice the growing trend of people wanting DJs to be clowns on the decks.
To me, what the DJ is doing has to be natural. Too many DJs look like they are forced to do jesus pose or doing a jig or whatever because they feel it's what the crowd expects them to do.
Just because a DJ is looking serious on the decks, it doesn't mean he's having a bad time. It could mean he's too busy concentrating on picking the next tune, or whatever.
Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Mississauga, Ontario CA
quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
I notice the growing trend of people wanting DJs to be clowns on the decks.
To me, what the DJ is doing has to be natural. Too many DJs look like they are forced to do jesus pose or doing a jig or whatever because they feel it's what the crowd expects them to do.
Just because a DJ is looking serious on the decks, it doesn't mean he's having a bad time. It could mean he's too busy concentrating on picking the next tune, or whatever.
I agree with you. Djs shouldn't do poses or what not as that looks so contrived, but i think if they look like they're having genuine fun then more ppl would be encouraged to dance. This is interesting because at my last gig at a small bar in 'sauga I was just nodding my head and more concentrating on what I'm doing. It was also my third ever live gig a well so i'm still not totally comfy playing live. But as soon as I got on the mic a few times, ppl cheered and got more excited. I was opening so I don't expect ppl to b dancing but it's interesting see this response. I makes me also wonder that maybe this is why the likes Swedish house mafia are so big, because they do come on the mic a lot and dance around. I understand this Dutch house stuff is huge but I also think the interactivity helps out.
Originally posted by Nobbie Q
I understand this Dutch house stuff is huge but I also think the interactivity helps out.
The Dutch House guys are what I thought of when this topic comes up. even if you don't like their tunes they're great at getting into the music and embracing the crowd. Dear god though Chuckie and that mic, talk about overdoing it. Anyone who saw him at Spin last Nov knows what I'm talking about...
That's a no-no.
