I understand your point. but its double standards.most dj's who dont produce earn more money then those who produce only ( excluding the medium to pro range ).


how about, if you want to dj, and destroy our tracks, you make your own to destroy instead


* not directed at you personally..

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best midi controller Behringer DDM 4000 is a mixer too, you have vestax vci, bcd3000 hercules rmx... but are crafted like toys.

Or Pioneer DDJ-S1 MIDI controller which cost 1,300€ but looks sweet, for this price i'd buy real decks though or some of the above, there is a problem with midi since has a lot of limitations in pitch controlling , and this is what eventually would make your tracks clash (wrong pitch setting) traktor has a 0.3% and a cdj has 0.02%, just look at the difference in accuracy terms to see what is better.

And relax man, it's common to get trolled here but you are behaving like an elitist pro when you're still far from it.

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Originally posted by Kid_presentable I understand your point. but its double standards.most dj's who dont produce earn more money then those who produce only ( excluding the medium to pro range ). how about, if you want to dj, and destroy our tracks, you make your own to destroy instead * not directed at you personally..

you made the choice knowing the market to learn production and to ignore learning the dj side. In absolutely every kind of music, live performance is the money maker.

this is a case of you being upset because you can't earn what djs do because you never bothered to learn the craft itself?

the funny thing is, having a production base should make it that much easier to pick it up. man you guys act like learning to mix properly is hard. It isn't, it is just practice...so if you can't make dj type money, it isn't because the pay scales are unfair, it is because you are lazy.

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay you made the choice knowing the market to learn production and to ignore learning the dj side. In absolutely every kind of music, live performance is the money maker. this is a case of you being upset

NO,others were upset i was offered gigs purely on production.

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well, they don't have a leg to stand on either.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos And relax man, it's common to get trolled here but you are behaving like an elitist pro when you're still far from it.

i believe you are one of them...and up until now have just wasted my time, I don't frequent forums,unless I need advice...you up untill now were simply trying to be funny.. and failing.



i said:

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then those who produce only ( excluding the medium to pro range )

that clearly shows I believe I'm an still an amateur.

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is the nemark mixtrack pro any good?

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It took me about 6 months to learn how to mix to the point where i didn't need to touch the record, could mix a track and have the lined up again using only the pitch shift in about 10 seconds and about another 6 months to learn how to scratch well. Djing has the lowest standards concerning the level you need to be at to make money. I found it incredibly easy but granted I was doing music since I was 2.

I actually started djing on dare and ended up enjoying it. I never tought it was anythign more than playing other people's music and used to laugh at all the hacks trying so hard to line their tracks up. Eventually I just got too old well for me anyways 23 or so and moved on to other things. The thing is that electronic music , for some strange reason tends to attract on average those that are less gifted in music. It s rather rare to find people that actually have a knack for music.

I remember doing harmonic mixing before people even talked about it. I remember organizing tracks around a key structure sort of like lets say sonata form. I remember using a certain motive of lets say the main bangin track and dropping it 4 times but never really playing it until the last track. I don't know where I learnt it but it just made sense to me.

In general , I don't respect djs in the way I would respect lets say a pianist or something that actually takes alot of time and practice. Not to mention most djs are retards with the social graces of a slug doing it to get laid.

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It often amazes me how many fuckwits with huge egos are in this industry. Kid presentable askeda simple question. Jesus what is it lack of MDMA in you area or something?

DG'ing like most of you fucktards is easy. try doing something skillful for once in your life skateboarding surfing snopwboarding these are things to be proud of. Im a dj and get gigs, my username is a pisstake on how many tryhard gangsters there are in this industry.

Reminds me of how many people were ganging up on deadmo5se and now you love his work you bunch of kooks.

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Thanks for sharing this informative thread with us.

if i were you id grab a cheap pair of tt's and like 10 records of similar style you produce, and learn the real way, that way itll be easy when you move to equipment that will do the work for you. start from scratch instead of jumping to the end. orrrrrrr just be ghey and download a torrent of traktor and bang it out!

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