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Storyteller
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I'm going to take the leap and say none is better. The entire idea of one OS being better than the other is a thing of the past but a lot of people just haven't caught up with that yet. They're different but all very capable and stable, but none of them are perfect. It's just a decision based on personaly preference and experience, no more no less.


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Timothy
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Originally posted by Fledz
Heh, it's amusing how excited people get about paying twice as much for something that could have been out a year or more ago. Apple really have created a mindless cult.


Those old Nalehem Quad cores were nothing special, the newer Arrendale which are 32 nm run cooler and more energy efficient than the old 45nm i7 Quad cores. The difference between the 32nm Dual Core Arrendales and the i7 45 nm Nalehem wasn't that big when all 4 cores were used.

These new Quad cores are completely different. In some benchmarks they score higher than a 2.4 ghz 8-core Mac Pro and i7-975 desktop CPU's.


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aNYthing
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
Christ, how did a thread about the new macbooks turn in to a mac vs PC debate?

The same old bloody defenses and and attacks get put up, and no one is right.

PC's are great for those of you that want to spend time building your own system and having tons of upgrade options, but the OS sucks in the grand scheme of things, as it has to be compatible with so many configurations of hardware.

Mac's are great for stability and the OS is fucking incredible, but there's little that can be upgraded and you pay a premium for the design.

The thing that keeps getting forgotten is that macs are about a complete solution, bought as sold - the OS and software made to work on it is as big a part of the overall package as the hardware used to run it.

PC's are about options, and the sacrifice is stability and design, both in terms of hardware and overall use.

We make music on computers, and I used to do pro audio and broadcast tech support so I'm done spending time fixing issues on DAW's.

I want to pressw the powerbutton, open a sequencer and make music and not have it crash, ever. My 2008 imac has met this requirement with flying colours.

I don't want to have to build my fucking car to get to work, and constantly maintain it just for it to get me from A to B. That's why I will never use a PC again for making music.

I only use PC's as my business machines as there are weird programs and tasks that simply don't exist on the mac platform.

It's whatever works for you....but having said that, tehre's a reason nearly every pro EDM artist is on mac and 90% of all pro studios around the world use macs as their main computers, and, no, it's not because of clever marketing.

As for the new laptops, is good step - not a massive but the point of thunderbolt is that it's scalable - it's 10gbs now, but that can be increased over time to 100gbs without much new technology, and sti
ll using the same optical cables.


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Whatever floats your boat guys. Use a PC, use a Mac... 100 years from now we'll all be dead so in the meantime just enjoy yourself and use whatever strikes your fancy.


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Notle
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True what Rann said, false what storyteller said

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Storyteller
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Your post exactly proves my point . You just haven't caught up yet.


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drogtech
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Hey

I would like to use this thread for my question, if i would like to buy right now mac laptop for producing and djing what would you recommended me?? Am on a budged so What would be the lowest end that I shouldnt cross but still work perfectly fine at home and in club?


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^^^macbook pro 13".



On topic: what it comes down is that Logic is mac only. i dont see whats there to argue left.

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drogtech
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macbook pro 13 dual core or i3/5 ? 8gb ram? 5400 hdd or 7200? and for how many years it will be good enought so i dont worry about cpu issue?


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i5,8GB,7200 if thats available fuck money, its just paper (or not even that anymore).

mine is dual core 2GB 5400 and works fine though but its almost two years old now so the new specs should be nice. have no idea really, im waiting for MBP Touch.

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drogtech
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i5,8GB,7200 if thats available fuck money, its just paper (or not even that anymore).

mine is dual core 2GB 5400 and works fine though but its almost two years old now so the new specs should be nice. have no idea really, im waiting for MBP Touch.


how many vsts you can use with that 2 years old laptop? do you djing with it aswell?? for how long do you think it could be good enought?


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Zak McKracken
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i dont use VSTs, i only use the devices included in Logic, Ableton and Reason, and lately ive been using samples more and more. Ive never had any CPU-limits. But I work effectively. I bet 16 instances of Zeta for a baseline could crash it though lol. Its all about your methods. Im not planning on get anything new before either iMac or MBP comes with touch. Some people use iMac for djeing just so you know. Bigger screen and with a stand that makes it take less space in the dj booth, plus alot better specs and wireless keyboard, mouse. Makes sense imo. The only problem as I see it with iMac would be 230V/110V if you are international dj. And it takes a little more space on the plane. And no battery Its all up to you, if you got the money why not just get the best.

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