Rusty could you please do something about your sig??

I don't know about everybody else but it's really fucking up my window by widening the whole page...

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Originally posted by chinamon chinamon is INCH MOAN. LOL so fitting.

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Originally posted by VDub Rusty could you please do something about your sig?? I don't know about everybody else but it's really fucking up my window by widening the whole page...

lol yeah, you can't read binary?

EDIT: VDubya, if you're at Decadence, we can have an objective experiment on how much the drugs suck

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 lol yeah, you can't read binary?

Binary Finary pit out some incredible stuff...

Epic as fuck!!!

And thanks for the sig fix...

And I'll let you conduct that experiment on your own...

These days it's two or three drinks and I'm good..

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Originally posted by chinamon chinamon is INCH MOAN. LOL so fitting.

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Originally posted by VDub Binary Finary pit out some incredible stuff... Epic as fuck!!!

Yeah man I was raving my ass off to that shit back when I was 7

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

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Originally posted by VDub There were a few years ,Del, when the clubs hadn't adopted that corporate attitude... I wasn't active in the rave heydays but Guv was definitely as close to them as you could get in the same building every week...

I didn't mean it like that - as a sudden change - lots of great years at System/Guv after the raves ended...but that's also because the crowd always had a strong representation of the same people who went to those raves originally

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Originally posted by srussell0018 E does permanent damage to your body's ability to produce, and re-uptake serotonin. So no, the drugs don't suck, your brain does.

The above statement should be tempered with "if you're routinely ingesting excessive amounts of the stuff and/or combining it with other intoxicants".

No one "loses all their serotonin" - prior disposition and mental state, sleep and fluid deprivation from staying up dancing all night, adultered pills and the aforementioned combining of intoxicants are all much more likely to be factors when it comes to longterm mood and cognitive impairment.

The most recent studies conducted by MAPS have shown that in moderate doses, MDMA is relatively safe for human consumption; they'v even gone so far as to petition the U.S. government to have it approved as a prescription medicine.

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Last edited by PivotTechno on Mar-08-2011 at 18:23

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Originally posted by PivotTechno The above statement should be tempered with "if you're routinely ingesting excessive amounts of the stuff and/or combining it with other intoxicants". No one "loses all their serotonin" - prior disposition and mental state, sleep and fluid deprivation from staying up dancing all night, adultered pills and the aforementioned combining of intoxicants are all much more likely to be factors when it comes to longterm mood and cognitive impairment. The most recent studies conducted by MAPS have shown that in moderate doses, MDMA is relatively safe for human consumption, even going so far as petitioning the U.S. government to have it approved as a prescription medicine.

That's interesting because one of my good friends who is currently going to school to study Biopsychology said her professor recently did a lecture on the effects of MDMA on the brain, and that even in small doses (I'm talking one dose in a year), it has tangible effects on serotonin production, as well as memory.

If I said anyone "lost all their serotonin" obviously I was exaggerating, but there have been long term studies done that do conclusively show that MDMA damages your brain, and excessive use damages it significantly.

Also, MAPS sponsors trials to try to develop MDMA into prescription medication. I wouldn't be surprised at all that an organization which is basically a pro-MDMA/psychedelics/marijuana association has said that it's relatively safe.

To put that into perspective, "Big Tobacco" has conducted lots of studies saying that cigarettes aren't that bad for you, and can even be beneficial.

And when MDMA was first created, it was used as a prescription medication. I'm not sure what the governing body for regulating food and drugs is in Canada, but once the FDA got some actual longterm data from studies on the use of MDMA, it was made illegal. I mean you used to be able to buy heroin in a Sears catalog too.

If there even was a chance that MDMA could be made to be taken in a manner that would be safe for humans, it's likely that the dosage would be much smaller than your average club-goer would take in a night.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 That's interesting because one of my good friends who is currently going to school to study Biopsychology said her professor recently did a lecture on the effects of MDMA on the brain, and that even in small doses (I'm talking one dose in a year), it has tangible effects on serotonin production, as well as memory.

A "tanglible effect" could mean pretty much anything. And as far as cognitive function goes, this is by far the most accurate study undertaken to date.

Either way, we both agree that moderation is key. As is education - pop enough pills from indeterminate sources into your mouth and over time, you certainly will learn something...

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Thank you very much for that article. I'll feel much better about doing it now

Wow, though...this sentence "So does this mean that ecstasy really is the risk-free, hangover-free, miracle drug that lets young ravers and gamers party all weekend without having to pay the price?"

Maybe not an alcohol hangover, but I definitely am not feeling in tip-top shape the next day by any means lol. I tend to get pretty bad headaches the day after, even when I take 5-HTP.

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Originally posted by OrangestO This isn't about physics, this is about waves.

Booze should be a scheduled drug!

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Haha I've done 9 of those listed in that bar graph, and alcohol BY FAR has caused the most problems for me

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