what is the point of discussing chords if you aren't going to relate them to other chords.






if you can even use your system to figure out these chords, using the system that has been around for years, I can pretty much tell you the chords in one play, I could also transpose it to any key without having to practice as you conceptualize the music in a framework that is much simpler and practical and it is rather simple.

I've investigated many ways people try to organize some sort of framework to make sense of music and your system , which actually was something modern composers used for atonal music more than anything is not really relevant for tonal music.

Just trust me on this one.

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Last edited by Looney4Clooney on Mar-09-2011 at 18:54

i had a point in there somewhere. i could possibly explain mathematically why C minor to D#(or Eb?) major sounds very good. some could find that interesting lol. obviously not you

edit: there might be hidden keys in a chord sounding great which a piano couldnt present because its limited to 11 keys in a octave.

funny to think about yeah? what note is 25% higher than C? it would probably sound very good. It might be the D# im not sure.

no you can't because good is not an objective word. What sounds good over the span of hundreds of years is more cultural than scientific.

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Originally posted by 112268 If you want to I can calculate for you why most people seems to like minor instead of major too. Its beacuse they are synced by less waves than a major chord.

HAHAHA

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

dont laugh. i am correct lol. you are the same people thinking the earth was flat and in the center of the universe. you are the same people that think there are no other civilizations than the one on earth. you are the same people who used to believe in GOD!

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Originally posted by 112268 dont laugh. i am correct lol. you are the same people thinking the earth was flat and in the center of the universe. you are the same people that think there are no other civilizations than the one on earth. you are the same people who used to believe in GOD!

In general, people prefer Major over minor.

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You sound like an idiot, or an idiot trying to troll(not so effectively).

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

you aren't correct. How do your mathematical ratios account for certain chords and chord succession to go in out and back in favour over hundreds of years. People like you that try to make chord succession into a scientific light are constantly the target of intellectuals mostly in the science community that know better. Harmony is a trend.

as to minor over major

well technically, major over tones line up better so it should sound more pure yet you said minor. , You don't really know what you are talking about.

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It's kind of hard to take you seriously as a musical prophet when you don't know roman numeral notation or how to spell "bassline".

i know IV is 4, calm down, but i have no idea what 4 means musically. fourth note in a scale? fourth key in a chord? fourth octave? who knows. not me and i dont care. im not so sure people favor major over minor btw. im oposite and in almost all songs that are popular there are more minor chords than major. maybe its the big depression all over again and that m4b is right that whats good is just a trend.

i did the calculation anyhow:


C major: 329.63/261.63 = 1.26 -> 26%

C minor: 311.13/261.63 = 1.18 -> 18%

none of them are anyway close to sync easily so my theory is in the bin. so much for the musical prophet thing. But id love to find out what a 25% above C would sound like, i bet its PURE!

try to understand that what our brains have typically conceived as pleasant from an evolutionary standpoint are small ratios.

Ie the octave 1:1
The fifth 3:2
The 3rd is 5:4
while the minor third is 6:5

the brain , without taking actual taste into account will find major more pleasing as it is more simple to find the pattern.

And your calculations are meaningless. Where did you get the 261. Why choose F ? And where on earth did you decide that what ever the actual division equals , wether high or low is bad.

I feel like you have a theory then work the numbers to confirm your theory without understanding anything regarding how the ear works, how our perception works and all that baggage that you would have to study and if you did, would realize what you are doing is complete nonsense.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney Harmony is a trend. What sounds good over the span of hundreds of years is more cultural than scientific.

Exactly.

@112268 - how would apply your mathematical approach to non-western music? And, if you're only talking about chords, how does that apply to the topic of this thread (i.e., key changes)?

One thing we've discovered, though, is that most jazz musicians are probably quantum physicists by day.

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Originally posted by 112268 none of them are anyway close to sync easily so my theory is in the bin. so much for the musical prophet thing. But id love to find out what a 25% above C would sound like, i bet its PURE!

isn't 50% above C a tritone? which is very dissonant? I don't see why you think 25% would be any better.