Jeez, you guys are rough.

I can see where the OP is coming from though - 'Trance' Energy was a sacred event in many Trance Addict's eyes.

As for the comment that most here don't like Trance - that's false -- it's just that those of us that do don't feel the need to waste our time (at every opportunity) dismissing other genres simply because it isn't our cup of tea. Some of you rant off like bitter, jaded ravers ...and it's getting rather old, to be honest.

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Sorry to be blunt, but people like you are the reason the scene is so fucked up and you are losing your beloved TE. People like you who just lap up whatever shit your DJ gods put in your feeding troff. Alot of people have come to their senses and realized trance nowdays is shit, which is why you are losing your event.... Haha, trance.nu and trance energy died the same year! Take a hint jesus.... Commercial pop trance is on its way out of popularity, and hopefully will never return.

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Originally posted by Swamper Jeez, you guys are rough. I can see where the OP is coming from though - 'Trance' Energy was a sacred event in many Trance Addict's eyes. As for the comment that most here don't like Trance - that's false -- it's just that those of us that do don't feel the need to waste our time (at every opportunity) dismissing other genres simply because it isn't our cup of tea. Some of you rant off like bitter, jaded ravers ...and it's getting rather old, to be honest.

Thanks for your comment and to dj christian also .

Yeah it's not like where trying to cause trouble, it was just a request at the start.

despite i don't think his behaviour at first was appropiate i agree with the OP, Trance Energy was sacred, it is not only that every year the line up was more chart influenced than quality influenced but now they bring up artists that float around a mainstream aura, this year was Tiësto next year we'll see Guetta, i'dnt mind if instead of 20djs they just bring 10 selected ones, instead of Tiësto, Sven Vath or Richie Hawtin, that would be a change in the concept of the show, now we bring other styles big names, you can add some DnB with Pendulum or Noisia... maybe not quality names but catchy for a line up in any case at least doing his thing instead of playing pop trance or pop house.

That would be welcome, this movement is clearly a $$$$ movement.

omg people asked you where to get pills?!?! That definitely hasn't happened to me at every party I've ever been to!

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Originally posted by Swamper Jeez, you guys are rough. I can see where the OP is coming from though - 'Trance' Energy was a sacred event in many Trance Addict's eyes. As for the comment that most here don't like Trance - that's false -- it's just that those of us that do don't feel the need to waste our time (at every opportunity) dismissing other genres simply because it isn't our cup of tea. Some of you rant off like bitter, jaded ravers ...and it's getting rather old, to be honest.

+1, also there are many people not reading this section, so talking about "here" at "Music Discussion" certainly isn't the same as "here" at Tranceaddict. With all the bashing in this section people don't even admit they like ASOT. Well, I DO LIKE IT, (but certainly not all of it).

To be honest, I would like to see it as Trance Energy again. There are enough other festivals covering more genres, so one with Trance in it's name sounds good to me.

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Originally posted by dj christian We do like trance. Im still listening to trance even circa 2002 at most.

Ah yes, but that's not what is being played as "trance" nowadays is it? I used the word as my assumption of his understanding of it, which is why I can say most users don't like it. For clarification replace the word with "shitty supersaw pop".

I might be wrong here though, because I really don't know what's being played at Trance Energy. I'm making wild assumptions based on lots of trancecompilations with "feat. [singer]" in 95%" of all the tracknames.

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Originally posted by Swamper As for the comment that most here don't like Trance - that's false -- it's just that those of us that do don't feel the need to waste our time (at every opportunity) dismissing other genres simply because it isn't our cup of tea.

So basically; there are a lot of users here who like trance (now talking about SSP, explained earlier), but it doesn't seem like it because they don't feel the need to dismiss other genres? This doesn't make any sense.

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Originally posted by Redd So basically; there are a lot of users here who like trance (now talking about SSP, explained earlier), but it doesn't seem like it because they don't feel the need to dismiss other genres? This doesn't make any sense.

It does make sense if you don't leave out the rest of what he said. There are a few people who jump into these kinds of threads time and time again bashing the new people who come in with their supersaws blazing. That doesn't mean that most of the users here don't like trance, it just means that some of the older people on here are so fervent in their distaste of newer trance, that it seems like most of the the people on here don't like trance, when in reality it's just that most of the people on here who post in MD happen to be the "jaded ravers" as Swamper put it.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 it just means that some of the older people on here are so fervent in their distaste of newer trance

I try to keep it 'some' and hope it won't get 'most' as one of the older ones.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 It does make sense if you don't leave out the rest of what he said. There are a few people who jump into these kinds of threads time and time again bashing the new people who come in with their supersaws blazing. That doesn't mean that most of the users here don't like trance, it just means that some of the older people on here are so fervent in their distaste of newer trance, that it seems like most of the the people on here don't like trance, when in reality it's just that most of the people on here who post in MD happen to be the "jaded ravers" as Swamper put it.

Ok I guess we have to define "most users" to even begin discussing this. This site has LOADS of members, most of whom never ever post. When I wrote most users here don't like trance it was to explain why he and every other tit ranting like that gets bashed here. Obviously I'm talking about the active members of this board. Who the hell cares about those that never contribute or just lurks? To me you don't count as a "user" just because you registered. Also I'm not buying that it just seems like it. This reminds me of a couple of days ago when an e-magazine reviewed a game to a score of 8.5, but the median of a LOT of user-reviews was ~3.5. This lead to an outrage in the comment-section where everyone was blaming trolls and pollbombing because they just couldn't fathom that their game was total cocksmokery. Yes it was probably a little skewed, but the game really was a huge huge disappointment. Is this board really filled with closet ssp-fans? I'm not convinced.

And yep Trance-MB, everyone and their hairless cat knows you like trance, past, present and future.

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Originally posted by Redd So basically; there are a lot of users here who like trance (now talking about SSP, explained earlier), but it doesn't seem like it because they don't feel the need to dismiss other genres? This doesn't make any sense.

What I am saying is that those that do not like Trance make a POINT of letting everyone know they do not like it whereas those that do, for the most part, do not engage in that kind of behaviour (i.e. jumping into a techno/house thread and dismissing it as rubbish)

Your perspective of MD gets automatically tarnished when Trance threads within MD get derailed by trance-haters. Yes, I agree, there is a lot of shit trance out there, but there is a lot of shit music in other genres being dumped/produced in a 'let's see what sticks' fashion. Trance just gets dumped on the most.

As well, from Day 1 of TA Music Discussion was NEVER only about Trance because one of my pet peeves is genre elitism. The problem has become that in enforcing an open policy of freedom of speech on here means it becomes difficult in maintaining a welcoming atmosphere when some go out of their way to be dicks.

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Originally posted by Redd I guess I can see why you would be upset, but this really really isn't a place to post this if you can't handle being flamed / ridiculed / told to sod off.

^^ and that right there is the problem.

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about drugs on Energy... well was one of the few festivals where people didn't ask me for drugs, i was on the "trance" area but i listened to some of the stuff playing on the Connect? stage (Marco V,Simon Patterson stage) when i was walking from stage to stage and certainly you needed drugs to stand up for the whole night. A girl saw me rolling a cigarette and thought it was Marijuana and kindly asked for something, she left a bit pissed...