can DACS really make such detail signal? Isnt like a normal signal about 5V max? 5V/2^24 = 0,3microVolt. can any analog equipment really be that correct? i doubt it lol. another thing is noise floor. man i dont really understand this 24bit stuff, its just unbelievable for me that we benefit from it at all. im now talking about finished product. i totally understand it during production but as a final product i dont think our dacs manage to make it. i might have it completely mixed up though lol.

Why tailor your music to people who don't really pay much attention to it anyway?

there are about 5000 people on this planet that care about

A. dynamic range
B. having lossless audio
C. quality mixing and mastering
d. distortion from being too hot

For 99% of the music buyers, youtube quality is pretty much as good as you need. They don't care about quality, they don't care about hearing loss, they want to hear their tracks on their ipods over all the ambient sound and that is really all they care about.

And if a recording does suck, do you honestly think anyone is going to care about the 200 - 300 fat ass rock tshirt wearing fuckheads at gear slutz that probably lost their virginity after high school.

Not saying make bad recordings, but let me be very clear. Nobody cares. It just doesn't matter. IF anything, the only deciding factor on whether your song won't sell is not being loud enough. That is the only thing a kid will notice.

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Absolutely not. The reason why that tracks are the most sold ones is just because of the characteristics of the period , no piracy , less music , different culture etc...

In fact i'd say that louder tracks sell better because most times you are rushing beatport you are not compensating the volume of your speakers with the loudness of the track, and louder is more catchy, i'm sure most of you like to play the music loud, not so loud to make it sound crunchy but it is a fact that if you listen to a track at a very low volume and then you listen to it at a high volume it sounds different because the lowest frequencies aren't audible at a low volume (same for the 18khz+ but in a lower extent).

This is applyed to radio stations as well, most of them put a compressor and a limiter because when you are changing the radio frequencies you are more likely to stop when you hear something you like but also if it sounds at least at the same volume than the other previous stations, this was the reason a guy who host a radio gave me when i wondered why we should screw the dynamics in that horrible way, simply marketing, this is the war, the loudness war, if you can't beat them join them.

Finally when i was a complete noob on music i thought that the virtual dj compressor "improved" the music so i always had it on :P so the (wrong mainly) conclussion i got is probably the conclussion of 99% of the listeners.

you seem to think dj dollars matter. Beatport is put a tadpole in a big ocean. It is absolutely meaningless in terms of sales. WHen I say consumers, I'm not talking about the < 1% of people that care about how things sound. People don't care even if they could tel. the difference.

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i'm saying beatport buy i could say any other general store, or even better the torrent sites where all your friends download their music, in fact in my noob era when internet appeared i downloaded things at the amazing speed of 2kbps and i thought that the music that weight ~3kb was the best (lower quality for the less quick-witted) this is a common mistake i think seeing that the music in my friends ipod is generally at 128kbps , sometimes i told them (i've just told in fact) and they just think i'm a freak, they consider me annoying and they clean their ass with my predictions of them becoming deaf at the age of 30 (i forced one of my friends who plays in a rock band and listens to music really loud to do a a hearing test, just mere curiosity, at the age of 23 he can't hear past 13khz which is kinda sad, i believe that in his 40s he will be lucky to hear past 8khz) , losing the point.

People don't care but i just wanted to point that the people who seem to care are equally influenced by this.

And holy fuck why people is so stupid the difference between a 128kbps and a 320kbps is really noticeable.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos And holy fuck why people is so stupid the difference between a 128kbps and a 320kbps is really noticeable.

not on your iPhone, boomblaster, your Aiwa 5.1, carstereo or TV. this is the consumers. we are the perfectionists and can hear it. all my friends laugh of me when i say that CD is better than mp3.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney you seem to think dj dollars matter. Beatport is put a tadpole in a big ocean. It is absolutely meaningless in terms of sales. WHen I say consumers, I'm not talking about the < 1% of people that care about how things sound. People don't care even if they could tel. the difference.

What's the hold up on the contest?

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Originally posted by cryophonik While I agree with you guys that correlation <> causation, the more overriding point here is that the OP's premise does not even rise to the level of correlation, and we're certainly not talking about bivariate correlation when considering the countless factors that affect record sales. We're talking very complex multivariate statistics here, where two similar trends among variables do not necessarily establish a correlation, and may only be weak covariates, at best.

I don't think I'm even seeing a strong trend. It just looks like cherry-picked data, and even within that data most of the results seem to be randomly distributed.

Hell, even with the massive head start on sales given to artists and albums from 1960-1990, back when people actually, you know, bought records, you still have Linkin Park and the Backstreet Boys and the Spice Girls making multiple entries into the top 100 best-selling albums of all time. And I don't think that GnR were noted for their Dynamic Range either.

It's quite possibly the least convincing statistical evidence I've ever seen.

I get it, a lot of music is overcompressed, but this guy must have a ridiculous amount of spare time to put so much effort into rallying against it to this degree.

Oh wait, it's © some dude who runs a mastering service. Can you say marketing?

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