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kitphillips
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
I know this much: you either record 1 mix,(this is how i get them for mastering and i place PQ codes and insert markers) or you align tracks up a timeline which after mixdown more or less have the same result, being 1 file with no markers.

If you still want to even out your volumes, do that AFTER you've mixed your track, but do appreciate this nevers goes without dynamics artifacts. Maybe consider that part of DJ'ing might be making sure that you maintain volume throughout your set? also recognize that dynamics is not a bad thing, something can only be loud if something else is soft right?


Well I'd say your just mastering the compilations of really shit DJs. Because controlling gain and EQ is the most important part of DJing after track selection.

I would never apply a limiter to a DJ compilation. Its honestly amazing to me that people who are producers and listen to dance music don't know what being a DJ is actually about. Maybe I've really missed something in this thread, but its pretty depressing actually, and show how little a lot of people on here know about dance music.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox
I think you've all misunderstood the question actually.

I think the OP is actually asking how, after mixing the CD, the loudness of the main sections is made consistent across a CD. With all the will in the world you'll never manage that by carefully controlling the gain and EQ of each track as you go along, so it takes some post production.


Yes you can manage it. How do you think DJ's in clubs manage to avoid massive gain changes?? Its all a part of the art of DJing, and its actually one of the easier parts.


quote:
Originally posted by Stu Cox
Although that doesn't necessarily make the answers so far invalid: if the mix was just put together on Ableton etc, they can actually ensure that the levels stay consistent as they draw the volume curves. But more often than not they will apply a bit of compression then stick a limiter on top. Yes all the tracks are already compressed, so it's up to the studio engineer to be careful to stop it from being too noticeable.


You don't need ableton to make your levels even, it just allows you to fix your mistakes. I doubt whether any professional DJs apply much compression to their mixes that they release, they have actual skills, practise and just overdub anything that doesn't quite work.


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kitphillips
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Registered: May 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by _dinamit_


again i know how to mix perfectlly and i'm sure the "big guys" (armin, Tiesto etc') are doing littlebit Mastering on the Volume
100%


You clearly fucking don't.


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_dinamit_
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: new york

quote:
Originally posted by Atlantis-AR
Please don't use any compression. Simply turn the volume down on the loudest tracks instead.


that the reason i asked people here

But for the guy that told me to put a limter... isn't a compressor?
I mean, theres other tool that can i put on the entire mix without changeing the dynamics ??? that's what i'm looking for!!

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_dinamit_
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: new york

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Originally posted by kitphillips
You clearly fucking don't.


I'm Smelling a Smartass who think he knows it all

Did you Sit With Armin in the Sudio that you'r knowning what you'r Saying?? things have changes and seems that you stoped in the early 90's

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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Lelystad, Netherlands

quote:
Originally posted by _dinamit_
I'm Smelling a Smartass who think he knows it all

Did you Sit With Armin in the Sudio that you'r knowning what you'r Saying?? things have changes and seems that you stoped in the early 90's
he was born in the early ninetees LOL


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kitphillips
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by _dinamit_
I'm Smelling a Smartass who think he knows it all

Did you Sit With Armin in the Sudio that you'r knowning what you'r Saying?? things have changes and seems that you stoped in the early 90's


I AM an ableton DJ you wart infested piece of troll excrement. I can also use serato and CDJs pretty effectively as well. I know a thing or two about DJing and have played in some fairly respected clubs in Sydney. I don't need to sit next to a mainstream pop DJ like Armin to see how its done, the fact that you think he's the be all and end all of DJs indicates a lot about your musical maturity.

Get a life and learn what DJing is actually all about before assuming you know what you're doing. Do us all a favour before unleashing your "brilliance" on the world. Otherwise we might have another tiest0rz.

This thread is a joke.


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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
Location: Lelystad, Netherlands

Kit, relax, Armin happens to be the most popular DJ in the world?
according to the DJMag top 100, well represented here on TA?

Not a bad thing to look and see how he's doing things right?


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_dinamit_
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: new york

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Kit, relax, Armin happens to be the most popular DJ in the world?
according to the DJMag top 100, well represented here on TA?

Not a bad thing to look and see how he's doing things right?


big respect for these answer.
maybe he is a "pop" or "•mainstream" dj, but i know to tell the difference between those who create "perfect" set for those who do it in a good way. and for all of the "respect" for your answer Kit you need to understand why a lot pro's in the industry saying the armin work hard and professionlly on every project he does.

and that you played in several clubs does relevant to my thrid
so you can live at your free time.

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quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Kit, relax, Armin happens to be the most popular DJ in the world?
according to the DJMag top 100, well represented here on TA?

Not a bad thing to look and see how he's doing things right?


i hope you are trolling

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Rumour has it that Armin paid for that #1 spot at least 2 years in a row now. With all the big worldwide hits Guetta had last year versus none of Armin makes it even more likely.


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Stu Cox
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Registered: Mar 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Yes you can manage it. How do you think DJ's in clubs manage to avoid massive gain changes?? Its all a part of the art of DJing, and its actually one of the easier parts.

Audible loudness changes: yes, that's easy to control.

Peak level going up when you've got 2 tracks layered: bloody difficult to avoid.


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for the record, i think most of you are trippin

most cd compilations these days, if not all (and even alot of radio shows), use multiband compression to keep the same balance/tone throughout the mix. as we all know different tracks have different levels of bass/mid/treb as well as levels of volume and compression, so you ever notice how in compilations things flow smoothly as regards to the balance and tone? Ever try playing or even mixing two of the tracks one after another? It usually doesnt sound even nearly the same.


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