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Originally posted by OOPS! They do kinda... good call. You think it's better to use samples vs. an actual VST?

No.

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Originally posted by kitphillips No.

Why?

I have never figured out how to make the bass samples play out properly at higher notes that come with packs such as vengence either. I dont know if you even can because they were exported in a certain note (much like a percussion sample)

Use vanguard if you want some classic hard trance or euro bass.
open it up and pick one of the bass presets that come with it and you will notice that the "whop" sound of the bass is due to the LFO( and some other things) play around with them till you understand whats going on. this is an easly and simple way to get it started if your just beginning to use FL


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Originally posted by Von Pistol I have never figured out how to make the bass samples play out properly at higher notes that come with packs such as vengence either. I dont know if you even can because they were exported in a certain note (much like a percussion sample) Use vanguard if you want some classic hard trance or euro bass. open it up and pick one of the bass presets that come with it and you will notice that the "whop" sound of the bass is due to the LFO( and some other things) play around with them till you understand whats going on. this is an easly and simple way to get it started if your just beginning to use FL VP

Yeah I've heard some pretty decent basslines with Vanguard such as this. I'm not however just beginning to use FL

my bad, sorry bud. well hope the info helps you out.

pretty sweet clip. bring out the lead more and ya got 'er


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In Fl the only way to get a decent pitch change is if the sample isn't too short and stabby. Short plucky types basses are hard as fuck to timestretch properly in FL studio.

But if you have a longer bass sample, all you literally need to do is open it in FL Granulizer which auto stretches the sample to the desired key. So as you play the different keys it keeps the same length for every note (newbie explanation).

Otherwise some shorter more dynamic samples may give you an issue or come out sounding shitty in FL. At this point I just open up melodyne which works perfectly. But melodyne is a bit of an art too. I find once you generally go further than an octave up or an octave down you will get a fake autotune type sound. Thats why saying the original key is C for the sample, keep it as the middle sample. Move it up in melodyne 6 keys then down 6 keys for when you stretch. Its better than opening a C sample and stretching it 12 keys up or down. Because once you go too low or too high from the sample is when you get that articial sound.

If the sample is somewhat long though like I said just use FL Granulizer, or you can even set FL sampler to timestretch which is a matter of just using the settings in the sampler.

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Originally posted by OOPS! Why?

I'm pretty sure you're trolling. But the answer is; because you'll never learn anything and constantly be dependant on someone else's work, because you'll sound stale because your using the same sounds as others, because you'll struggle to find original sounds, because you'll spend more time and money looking for the right sample than you would had you synthed it yourself.

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Originally posted by kitphillips I'm pretty sure you're trolling. But the answer is; because you'll never learn anything and constantly be dependant on someone else's work, because you'll sound stale because your using the same sounds as others, because you'll struggle to find original sounds, because you'll spend more time and money looking for the right sample than you would had you synthed it yourself.

^This
edit: also, get better VSTs. Nexus and Vanguard blow for synthesizing. They are cool & fun synths, yes, but very incapable of a lot of things.
Get Massive & Sylenth1.

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Originally posted by kitphillips I'm pretty sure you're trolling. But the answer is; because you'll never learn anything and constantly be dependant on someone else's work, because you'll sound stale because your using the same sounds as others, because you'll struggle to find original sounds, because you'll spend more time and money looking for the right sample than you would had you synthed it yourself.

Partially disagree. Yes I agree it is important to learn how to program a synth effectively, but at the same time I agree with atx, use whatever works. I don't care if a track uses a bunch of "Vengeance" samples or presets or whatever. Dance music is dance music. As long as I can feel the beat and dance, I'm good.

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Originally posted by Kasmira ^This edit: also, get better VSTs. Nexus and Vanguard blow for synthesizing. They are cool & fun synths, yes, but very incapable of a lot of things. Get Massive & Sylenth1.

I have Massive. However I have always seen it as powerful for Dubstep and Electro mostly. I didn't know it was that great for Trance music. I do need to acquire Sylenth however, I have heard nothing but good things.

Just transpose the notes down so the samples are longer.

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