I have grown to like McDonalds coffee.

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Originally posted by Quazar Agreed for brewed coffee. For espresso-based drinks and iced or blended stuff, it's pretty good, though. Not to mention convenient.

meh, good coffee based drinks first requires good coffee. Most places big enough to have a starbucks probably also have a local cafe which will probably offer better coffee; subsequently, better coffee based drinks. If your town doesn't have one then get an esspresso pump and learn to make them yourself... if quality is important. If one is only looking for fast and easy then any of the chain places will suffice; Starbucks being amongst the worst of them but alright if what you're really looking for is a vehicle for sugar and milk/cream.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay no one is scared of a guy blasting trance out of a 1996 ford topaz with doors that don't match and a sony xplode.

O rly?

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard meh, good coffee based drinks first requires good coffee. Most places big enough to have a starbucks probably also have a local cafe which will probably offer better coffee; subsequently, better coffee based drinks. If your town doesn't have one then get an esspresso pump and learn to make them yourself... if quality is important. If one is only looking for fast and easy then any of the chain places will suffice; Starbucks being amongst the worst of them but alright if what you're really looking for is a vehicle for sugar and milk/cream.

LA has plenty, but most of the good cafes are more expensive than Starbucks.

Also, like I said, I love iced coffee. I try to frequent independently-owned coffee shops as much as possible, but most of them don't do iced coffee properly. It's not double-strength and stored cold like Starbucks, half the time they just poor hot or warm coffee over ice and it melts the ice almost immediately.

Now if I want a latte or something, I'll definitely try to seek out a good place if I have the time. But for a mid-afternoon pick-me-up or a place to sit and read after lunch, Starbucks works fine.

EDIT: And McDonald's iced coffees are pretty good, actually.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk At least last time you Brits got pissed off, we got punk music out of it. This time, it'll probably just end up being embers breaks

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Originally posted by Lira

Dude, aren't you from Brazil? There's a reason there are no Starbucks where you live. It's because Starbucks can't even hold a light to the quality of coffee your people are used to.

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Originally posted by Quazar LA has plenty, but most of the good cafes are more expensive than Starbucks.

Not really dude

Which part of LA do you live in? There's a place called Intelligentsia that has amazing coffee. There's only a few, one in Silverlake, one in Venice, one in Pasadena and one in (I think) east LA.

http://www.intelligentsiacoffee.com...enice+Coffeebar

I go here all the time, to hell with Starbuck's

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Originally posted by bas Not really dude Which part of LA do you live in? There's a place called Intelligentsia that has amazing coffee. There's only a few, one in Silverlake, one in Venice, one in Pasadena and one in (I think) east LA. http://www.intelligentsiacoffee.com...enice+Coffeebar I go here all the time, to hell with Starbuck's

If I could go to Intelligentsia or Psychobabble all the time, I totally would.

I'm in Studio City. We have Aroma, which is good but always WAY too packed (and more expensive).

Hoping to move to Los Feliz/Silverlake before too long, though. Hopefully then I can rock the good shit.

(Starbucks does give me a free drink with every 15 drinks I buy, so... there is that)

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Originally posted by Sushipunk At least last time you Brits got pissed off, we got punk music out of it. This time, it'll probably just end up being embers breaks

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Originally posted by Taipan Dude, aren't you from Brazil? There's a reason there are no Starbucks where you live. It's because Starbucks can't even hold a light to the quality of coffee your people are used to.

I don't know about that... Brazilian coffees suck ass.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I don't know about that... Brazilian coffees suck ass.

What Brazilian coffee did you try, Craig? There are too many varieties/brands/stuffs-Lira-doesn't-know around here

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Thank god I live in a tourist city. Our downtown is filled with awesome little cafes and brunch spots. My friend and I go to this place that brews and sells fair trade coffee and order maple lattes all the time. In fact, I think I'll call her up for a date today!

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Originally posted by Lira What Brazilian coffee did you try, Craig? There are too many varieties/brands/stuffs-Lira-doesn't-know around here

I meant the coffees grown in Brazil. I've tried three of the four varieties you guys grow; Burbon Santos, typica, and Caturra. None of them are very good for anyone that likes flavour. I mean, if you want a really smooth and weak coffee then the Burbon Santos is alright but I like more complex and flavourful coffee. I'd say the burbons are good if you don't actually like coffee but want to start drinking it. The typica and Caturra are just unadultarated crap IMO. I'm sure it's mostly due to the low altitude you folks grow at... the beans just don't get hard enough to withstand proper roasting without giving up all their flavour.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down