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Linx_da_cat
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: in a nutshell

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
If you want a decent Vengaboys song get Vengaboys - Kiss (airscape remix). Just realize that the Vengaboys had no part in it's greatness.


teehehe. that's a really good track!! i like it.

and i agree totally biz. like i said, the 3 songs are still very dance/pop oriented and yeah i have heard all 3 them The Master. it's just a lame attempt at TRYING to merge the genres together. but once a pop tune, usually always a pop tune. hehe. unless it's remixed by somethin' like airscape.

but still, i can see how you could classify them as trance. they use the same sounding riffs as some trance tunes have used and the same beats, and the vengaboys track especially drops and rises again...drops and rises...but still...if the emotion and love ain't in the song. if i don't FEEL the track...then i won't keep it. sorry. still a dance tune to me. just PURE dancin'. hehe. the 3 have that kinda drive i guess.

peace

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Linx_da_cat
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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: in a nutshell
Re: The Master

quote:
Originally posted by The Master
I repeat it to you it's these three songs specifically, not the whole groups.

And for god sakes, don't threaten me, I come in peace and all I recive here is insults.


eh? no insults from me!

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The Master
open your mind



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Bogotá D.C.
Hello! The Master

Ok ok, I accept it, the are not really that good, they have at least a little bit of trance but they’re not good enough.

Now maybe you thought that I’m an Alice Deejay fan or something but the truth is that I just like the three damn songs.
In other hand I love trance, PVD, Oakie, Yahel, System f… Oh yeah and if the holes of the compact discs were bigger, I would have made love with Magik 6.

Peace, thats what we need, damn peace.

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Linx_da_cat
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ewww...i love magik 6 as much as the next guy...but...ewwww..roflmao. hehehe. thanks for the discussion. needed a quick little jolt up in the brain.

peace bro!

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Pointy
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Re: Re: The Master

quote:
Originally posted by [A|ienFactory]


Sounds like Alice Deejay, and again:
Cheap synths;
Cheap melody;
Cheap beats;

Sorry buddy, this really sux anyway.
No trance elements in this one either!!


PREACH IT BROTHER!!!

the main reason alice deejay sucks so hard is exactly that, CHEAPNESS. There's not enough fucken layers of sound. Take Hybrid for example, they fucken own and sound awesome because they've have more that just Beat+Bassline+Melody+Swirly sound!.. they have 7, 8, 9 layers of sounds at times and it sounds bloody professional!!.. listen to Alice Deejay or Vengaboys and you have 4/5 layers sound max!


Just my two cents

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The Master
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Bogotá D.C.
The Master

I got it.
End of Post.
Case Closed.

Now i want you to excuse me for my bad english, but im from Bogota - Colombia. If there were an spanish board i would talk perfect.

Sorry, i'm just a TA in training. Someday I'll be like you guys.

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[A|ienFactory]
trancEaddict in JAIL



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Sweden
Re: The Master

quote:
Originally posted by The Master
I got it.
End of Post.
Case Closed.

Now i want you to excuse me for my bad english, but im from Bogota - Colombia. If there were an spanish board i would talk perfect.

Sorry, i'm just a TA in training. Someday I'll be like you guys.


Having just a few posts dosen't mean you can't much about trance. And I believe you, you are a regular trance guy. I have to admit that I like the most of Scooter's instrumental tracks (Even tho' they not are trance artists). Everybody has his own opinion.

Peace.

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kansascity89
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: London/Toronto
Smoking ..umm..something ?????

Dude,let's get serious here.
What kind of answer were you ever looking for?
Yeah of course these songs have elements of trance in them, but they also have elements of classical, r'n'b, disco, and rock'n'roll. These songs will or can never be the trance we're talkin about here. As PointyDC just replied, they're cheap! And it goes far beyond cheap production.
quote:
Originally posted by Lynx
...if the emotion and love ain't in the song. if i don't FEEL the track...

These tracks are pathetically cheap on emotion and love. There's no passion in these songs. Yeah sure, they sound fun and make you tap your feet, but like remaining hoarde of pop these tracks are thrown together just to get a dancefloor hit and make some bucks. These people don't take pride in what they do, they just do it. Real trance, and any real music for that matter, has heart, emotion, love, passion, and a ton of sweat poured into the creative process. Those tracks that you hear at 3am, the ones that just blow your mind and lift you off the fuckin floor in a paralyzing emotional warp....those are real music and real trance. (Ouch, i'm getting worked up here, i gotta hear some good music)

With similiar logic in different tongue, you could claim that Puff Daddy is a hip hop artist.

Anyhoo...let us leave this squirrely discussion....music is magic, and yeah i'll still tap my foot to Alice DJ...So
no offense intended dude, but i just get into this debate too often and it drives me crazy,
quote:
Originally posted by The Master

Peace, thats what we need, damn peace.

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Linx_da_cat
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Re: ?????

quote:
Originally posted by kansascity89
Dude,let's get serious here.
What kind of answer were you ever looking for?
Yeah of course these songs have elements of trance in them, but they also have elements of classical, r'n'b, disco, and rock'n'roll. These songs will or can never be the trance we're talkin about here. As PointyDC just replied, they're cheap! And it goes far beyond cheap production.

These tracks are pathetically cheap on emotion and love. There's no passion in these songs. Yeah sure, they sound fun and make you tap your feet, but like remaining hoarde of pop these tracks are thrown together just to get a dancefloor hit and make some bucks. These people don't take pride in what they do, they just do it. Real trance, and any real music for that matter, has heart, emotion, love, passion, and a ton of sweat poured into the creative process. Those tracks that you hear at 3am, the ones that just blow your mind and lift you off the fuckin floor in a paralyzing emotional warp....those are real music and real trance. (Ouch, i'm getting worked up here, i gotta hear some good music)

With similiar logic in different tongue, you could claim that Puff Daddy is a hip hop artist.

Anyhoo...let us leave this squirrely discussion....music is magic, and yeah i'll still tap my foot to Alice DJ...So
no offense intended dude, but i just get into this debate too often and it drives me crazy,


i understand ya perfect here bud. i get into the same argument allll the time. i'm sure we all do! but i'm glad you kept a cool head about it and offered your opinion.

well said bro.

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kansascity89
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: London/Toronto
Smoking ..umm..something final quote

Totally agree with ending this point, good debate, however, I just gotta, gotta, finish with a little quote:

Pop isn't a drug! I used to suck dick for trance. Now that's an addiction. You ever suck some dick for pop?


Congrats if you know the origin of the quote, great movie.
"Now, don't get me wrong, I love weed. I love it. But not as much as I love pussy."

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The Master
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Bogotá D.C.
Re: The Master

quote:
Originally posted by me
I got it.
End of Post.
Case Closed.

Now i want you to excuse me for my bad english, but im from Bogota - Colombia. If there were an spanish board i would talk perfect.

Sorry, i'm just a TA in training. Someday I'll be like you guys.

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