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evo8
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Re: Re: Why do people compress synths?

quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
I'm with you, I don't understand compressing synths in 99% of cases.


kinda have to agree with that

Im using less and less compression these days, maybe the odd bit of limiting here and there...


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Old Post Jun-15-2011 19:05  Ireland
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Re: Re: Re: Why do people compress synths?

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Originally posted by evo8
kinda have to agree with that

Im using less and less compression these days, maybe the odd bit of limiting here and there...


I'm trying to use more and more. I find that the character compression adds makes a subtle difference in making music seem more "alive."

The softube FET compressor sounds brilliant on basslines for the character it adds. The Duende SSL bus compressor with its release set on auto just adds an extra bit of character to the entire mix.


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Isn't the whole difference between a compressor and a volume envelope that the envelope affects all dynamics, and the compressor only those above the threshold. Kind of the way an EQ is different from a dynamic EQ. So it's not a matter of which works better, it just depends on what you're trying to achieve.

I'm curious to hear these louder/fuller or less presence samples though, to hear what's really going on...


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I'm trying to use more and more. I find that the character compression adds makes a subtle difference in making music seem more "alive."

The softube FET compressor sounds brilliant on basslines for the character it adds. The Duende SSL bus compressor with its release set on auto just adds an extra bit of character to the entire mix.


yeah i tried mix compression for a good while - liked the way it pulled everything together, particularly kick and bass, the "glue" effect we hear so much about

but now i want my mixes to sound more open, not as squashed if you like - you might say then "well dont compress as much" but it gets to the stage if your using so little then why use any at all?


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why do people compress synths?

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but now i want my mixes to sound more open, not as squashed if you like - you might say then "well dont compress as much" but it gets to the stage if your using so little then why use any at all?


For the sonic character it imparts. Some compressors add character when applying very little or no compression.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why do people compress synths?

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Originally posted by evo8
yeah i tried mix compression for a good while - liked the way it pulled everything together, particularly kick and bass, the "glue" effect we hear so much about

but now i want my mixes to sound more open, not as squashed if you like - you might say then "well dont compress as much" but it gets to the stage if your using so little then why use any at all?


You could put in less elements or choose instruments with thinner timbres.


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check out the transient dynamics in this track, someone correct me if im wrong, but this is optimum compression at work imo.

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quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
You already have given the answer yourself (the envelope) you also say that you understand what compression does, put these 2 together and the only conclusion can be, that it makes no sense to you and you're ready for a debate

I could ask the same question for sidechain, as the same effect can be done with an envelope / LFO as well.

So a discussion about what people like/dislike doing is a bad thing?


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That was a cool song MSZ, very well engineered!

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Raphie
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No, it isn't but it's often these topics just end up in ratholing.
This one potentially would end up with the "gifted synthprogrammer know it all" debating that using compression on synths equates lack of synth programming knowledge. I'm not going there....


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I find that using compression on synths equates to lack of synth programming knowledge.


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I find that using compression on synths equates to lack of synth programming knowledge.
you're too impatient, let it cook a bit more..... Get KitPhilips all worked up first 'n stuff, (i bet he'll mention again that he wants to suck my dick). and THEN blow up the topic


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