I think I understand why you chose 'derail' as your screenname :/

I with meriter, on this. Just some things that come to mind are that my fondest memories aren't associated with specific songs but the totality of the evening. In that consideration, a song's place in the evening is transcendent as it's less a singular piece of work and more of a tool that a good DJ makes use of to convey his work. I don't think producers should relegate themselves to making utilitarian loops but I also think that they should be focused on contextualizing their work.

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Okay, so what's the overall message here?

We should make non-memorable songs because...?

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Originally posted by derail We should make non-memorable songs because...?

Almost the right question, except it's "filler" not "unmemorable". But yea I agree.

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Originally posted by derail Okay, so what's the overall message here? We should make non-memorable songs because...?

This thread isn't relevant to you so just stay out of it. It's really just a simple thing to think about and doesn't require this kind of rigid analyzation. No one is telling you to make non-memorable music. Make whatever the fuck you want. Simply saying the subtlety and background music has it's place. It's just something that I noticed happening in this real world situation that might apply to some of the producers here. Like maybe next time you have a track with a strong hook and distinct melody, make a remix that settles more into the background. It helps fill the space instead of making tracks that are all "hey look at me" and tiring out your audience with it. There's nothing particularly hard to understand about that. Quit arguing for the sake of arguing.

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Originally posted by meriter It helps fill the space instead of making tracks that are all "hey look at me" and tiring out your audience with it. There's nothing particularly hard to understand about that. Quit arguing for the sake of arguing.

If you've ever heard Girl Talk before, it's all "hey look at me" kind of pop music. There's no subtlety, not like the kind you are talking about.

If people want a break, they can go get a drink...

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by Beatflux If you've ever heard Girl Talk before, it's all "hey look at me" kind of pop music. There's no subtlety, not like the kind you are talking about. If people want a break, they can go get a drink...

Sure, if they paid to see Girl Talk, they can go outside, smoke a cigarette, and chill out for a bit.

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I don't know why you guys insist on calling any track that's minimal or lacking a catchy hook "filler", as if the night's focus is all about "memorable" tracks that a lot of people might recognize.

DJs play popular songs because it gets an immediate response out of the people in the audience that know it. That's all there is to it.. the rest of the songs still get played, and the crowd still enjoys them, so what exactly is the harm done here? That those tracks are getting more attention than the minimal/not-so-catchy tracks? That's kind of how music works.

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Originally posted by Kysora I don't know why you guys insist on calling any track that's minimal or lacking a catchy hook "filler", as if the night's focus is all about "memorable" tracks that a lot of people might recognize. DJs play popular songs because it gets an immediate response out of the people in the audience that know it. That's all there is to it.. the rest of the songs still get played, and the crowd still enjoys them, so what exactly is the harm done here? That those tracks are getting more attention than the minimal/not-so-catchy tracks? That's kind of how music works.

Well I think it's more opinion then anything. Like "Cafe Del Mar", if someone called it a filler track off of Tranceport, and another song, say, "Words", on that album was the focus. Then years later, not too many people care about "Words", but "Cafe Del Mar" becomes a classic.

Just en example, none of what I said about either of those tracks is true, just context.

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