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CalvP
Dance to the music
Registered: Jun 2011
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Aug-02-2011 17:58
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EddieZilker
This is the dance.

Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Marijuana Sex Camp
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| quote: | Originally posted by CalvP
Eddie i presumed this was some sort of SNL skit (i had no idea he sang) but i have to be admit, i genuinely found both songs arresting. |
He did a complete album with Ben Folds a while back, called Has Been, and a brilliant but quite insane chemist I hung out with used to play the fuck out of it. The whole concept for the title was based on a photograph he posed for with an actress who, on walking away, was overheard by Shatner to say that she hadn't wanted to take a picture with "that has been."
The whole album is pure genius with Shatner's poetry and spoken word delivery being conveyed by arguably some of the best production and musicianship I've heard. Shatner, in William Shatner's Gonzo Ballet, posits that had it not been for his wrong decisions, early on, he'd not have had the wisdom to follow through with the correct decisions that have affected his success in later life. His ventures with music is a prime example of that with his early and, by his account, misunderstood version of "Mr. Tambourine Man" juxtaposed against his later work with Ben Folds.
In a segment of the film prefaced by the sentence, "Just because you make bad decisions doesn't mean you stop making decisions." he elaborates that the songs of The Transformed Man were so devoid of their intended context, some being truncated for the sake of radio play, that it turned out to be a brutal miscalculation to have made it, let alone released it, at all. As withering as the criticism was - that his first album is essentially a cultural flag-stone for the unintentionally funny - he made decisions which allowed for Has Been to be a more considered, relevant piece of art; decisions predicated by his failure, early on.
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Now with extra singles!
my old stuff, not quite up to snuff - but I still dig it - UPDATED 9/23/2012
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Aug-02-2011 19:08
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Storyteller
Supreme tracneaddict

Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands
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Aug-02-2011 20:22
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No Left Turn
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: San Francisco
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To me, success is reaching or surpassing whatever goals you have made for yourself. Success, in and of itself, is subjective. What I think success is could totally not matter to you (a general "you", not directed towards anyone) and vice versa. Some people want to achieve way more than others. So I think that as long as you've accomplished whatever it is that you've set out to do, then you're successful.
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Aug-03-2011 05:41
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Richard Butler
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Apr 2009
Location: London
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A wealthy industrialist took a day trip up the coast whilst there, he chanced upon a poor fisherman, sitting with one measly fishing rod in the water, hoping for a bite. The industrialist went over and started chatting.
"Caught much?" he asked the fisherman.
"Ah, you know, I only catch a few fish each day. Enough for me and my family. They bite when they bite."
This man's low ambition and lack of imagination for grander fishing operations troubled the industrialist.
"Have you ever thought of getting a net?" asked the industrialist
"Why would I want to do that?" replied the fisherman
"Well, you'd catch more fish, quicker." explained the industrialist.
"And then?"
"Then you can sell those that your family do not need for profit!" exclaimed the industrialist
"And then?" came the deadpan response.
"Then you can invest in a fishing boat to catch even more fish," the industrialist was getting into it now.
But the fisherman couldn't see where he was going, so of course, he replied: "And then?"
"Well, then you can garner yet more profit, buy a fleet of fishing boats, operate them under a company, with employees and everything. You might not have to spend so much time fishing yourself." he said.
The fisherman scratched his head and looked at his measly rod, a little perplexed. "What happens then?"
"What happens then? Oh my god man, don't you see it?! And then, you can move to the big city, court the stock market, sell your company and become really wealthy - just like me!" huzzahed the industrialist with a triumphal snort.
The fisherman didn't seem to share his enthusiasm at all. There was a long pause. Finally the man came out of his period of reflection and said:
"And then?"
"And then, my little fishing friend, you can retire to the coast and go fishing everyday and spend loads of time with your family, sit back and enjoy life!"
“What do you think I’m doing now?” the fisherman smiled.
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